Asdfasd wrote:
Total myth bolt doesnt have great start. He is fastest ever at every aspect of race. Im impressed he's still got it.
Maybe the PEDs from soccer performance still have significant effect.
Asdfasd wrote:
Total myth bolt doesnt have great start. He is fastest ever at every aspect of race. Im impressed he's still got it.
Maybe the PEDs from soccer performance still have significant effect.
no man owns his own island (wrong shoes) wrote:
You don't know diddley.
Bo Jackson: 4.13s (1986)
Add 0.24 seconds
Bjørn Dæhlie wrote:
no man owns his own island (wrong shoes) wrote:
You don't know diddley.
Bo Jackson: 4.13s (1986)
Add 0.24 seconds
Bzzt. Only 0.04.
(In 2017) John Ross blew everyone out of the water and set a new record of 4.22 seconds. Ross was (also) unofficially clocked at 4.18 — which would put him within a respectable distance of Bo Jackson’s legendary 4.13.
4.22 - 4.18 = ? wrote:
Bjørn Dæhlie wrote:
Add 0.24 seconds
Bzzt. Only 0.04.
(In 2017) John Ross blew everyone out of the water and set a new record of 4.22 seconds. Ross was (also) unofficially clocked at 4.18 — which would put him within a respectable distance of Bo Jackson’s legendary 4.13.
HANDTIMED!!!
How do you not get this? All these times are handtimed by multiple officials. 4.18 was the fastest an official pressed the button while another pressed it at a different time and another at a different time.
Because officials are human and can't press the button exactly when they cross the line, you have to add .22 to .25 to the time which to get an accurate representation of the time which the NFL does not do.
Nope nope nope wrote:
4.22 - 4.18 = ? wrote:
(In 2017) John Ross blew everyone out of the water and set a new record of 4.22 seconds. Ross was (also) unofficially clocked at 4.18 — which would put him within a respectable distance of Bo Jackson’s legendary 4.13.
HANDTIMED!!!
How do you not get this? All these times are handtimed by multiple officials. 4.18 was the fastest an official pressed the button while another pressed it at a different time and another at a different time.
Because officials are human and can't press the button exactly when they cross the line, you have to add .22 to .25 to the time which to get an accurate representation of the time which the NFL does not do.
Can you not do math?
Ross 4.22 official ==> 4.18 unofficial, = 0.04 difference
Bo 4.13 unofficial ==> 4.17 official (0.04 difference)
Your 0.22 number is clearly wrong, as shown by the Ross factual data (0.04).
Addition, not subtraction wrote:
Nope nope nope wrote:
HANDTIMED!!!
How do you not get this? All these times are handtimed by multiple officials. 4.18 was the fastest an official pressed the button while another pressed it at a different time and another at a different time.
Because officials are human and can't press the button exactly when they cross the line, you have to add .22 to .25 to the time which to get an accurate representation of the time which the NFL does not do.
Can you not do math?
Ross 4.22 official ==> 4.18 unofficial, = 0.04 difference
Bo 4.13 unofficial ==> 4.17 official (0.04 difference)
Your 0.22 number is clearly wrong, as shown by the Ross factual data (0.04).
Oh I see, one data point 35 years later, with different people and different place wouldn't matter at all?
The HT factor is surely always .04.
4.22 - 4.18 = ? wrote:
Bjørn Dæhlie wrote:
Add 0.24 seconds
Bzzt. Only 0.04.
(In 2017) John Ross blew everyone out of the water and set a new record of 4.22 seconds. Ross was (also) unofficially clocked at 4.18 — which would put him within a respectable distance of Bo Jackson’s legendary 4.13.
Bo's time is outdated and slower than 4.12.
When Bo ran the Combine, there was no electronic finish, the time was fully hand-timed at start and finish. They use hand-time only for the start now. An experienced hand-timer will need to add .12 to the start and finish in Bo's era but only needs to react to one of those nowadays with one electronic time and one hand-time so Bo got a .12 advantage over modern players due to timing equipment. With today's timing, Bo's 40 would be 4.25 roughly.
If electronic timing was used for both start and finish, John Ross would be around 4.34 and Bo would be 4.37 without reaction time.
Oh Please wrote:
Addition, not subtraction wrote:
Can you not do math?
Ross 4.22 official ==> 4.18 unofficial, = 0.04 difference
Bo 4.13 unofficial ==> 4.17 official (0.04 difference)
Your 0.22 number is clearly wrong, as shown by the Ross factual data (0.04).
Oh I see, one data point 35 years later, with different people and different place wouldn't matter at all?
The HT factor is surely always .04.
As a former sprinter and now sprint coach, He is either a troll or short of brain cells. The 4.18 John Ross clocked was an unofficial stopwatch time from outside observers, not an adjusted HT and that HT factor is added, not subtracted, the addition in a fully HT run is .22-.26 and as Bo had only HT start and finish, his HT adjusted time would 4.36 roughly. John Ross had half electronic and half HT so his adjusted time would be 4.34 roughly.
If anyone doesn't believe me, consult google on adjusted HT and that the quoted John Ross 4.18 was from an outside observer and not an adjusted HT. You do not subtract, Hand times are always faster.
John Ross had half electronic and half HT so his adjusted time would be 4.34 roughly.
... which directly contradicts the 4.22 official time.
The anti-Bo narrative keeps falling apart by the millisecond.
Fastest unofficial times:
4.13 Bo
4.18 Ross
Extrapolating, fastest official times:
4.17 Bo
4.22 Ross
Unfortunately, it seems "higher math" is a recreational hobby for too many LRC pseudo-theorists.
This was more like a 4.6.
His "Official" 4.22 still isn't a F.A.T. time... so you would need to adjust that too.
Bo Jackson - 4.12 Seconds
Michael Bennett - 4.13 Seconds
Alexander Wright - 4.14 Seconds
Darrell Green - 4.15 Seconds
Ahman Green, 4.17 Seconds
Joey Galloway - 4.18 Seconds
Terrell Sinkfield - 4.19 Seconds
Deion Sanders - 4.21 Seconds
Kevin Curtis - 4.21 Seconds
Don Beebe - 4.21 Seconds
Auburn’s Pro Day. ('86)
Bo Jackson wrote:
“I ran my first 40, and about 5 yards from the finish line, I just kind of let up and cruised through, and I ran a 4.3,” Jackson explained. “As I’m walking back, my coach is walking toward me, he said ‘Hey, why don’t you run the damn 40, give these people what they want.’ So I said, ‘Alright, but you gotta open the back door.’”
Jackson’s problem was that if he ran full speed, he wasn’t going to have room to slow down, so he needed someone to open the back door at the Auburn facility so he’d have more room to finish his run. After the door was opened, that’s when history supposedly happened.
“I didn’t find out until after track practice what I had run [on the second 40],” Jackson said. “Some of the guys that had stop watches had me at 3.9 and four flat, but the electronic timer had gotten me at a 4.13.”
If you are counting non-NFL combine times (like the new Bolt number), might as well count Bo.
Today on Let's Run, where we compare ourselves to other sports because we are so insecure, Bolt, the fastest man in the world, is faster than everyone who plays football!!
Meanwhile, over at Let's Run into Each Other, we celebrate the uninspiring NFL career of the world's best hurdler:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1989-09-10-8901120204-story.html
And this hit, Bolt hasn't had this:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/370491506818209902/
Renaldo was knocked unconscious and left the field on a stretcher.
I am shocked that he ran that fast at this point, after being retired 1 1/2 years, when he bowed out with injuries.
Now quitting soccer makes sense. He is coming back to track and field. He can see how much slower the best sprinters are than in his own time.
Asdfasd wrote:
Total myth bolt doesnt have great start. He is fastest ever at every aspect of race. Im impressed he's still got it.
It's ridiculous that people keep propagating that myth. Bolt has always had a great start. Here is a list of best 10m splits ever recorded:
http://speedendurance.com/2013/04/09/fastest-10-meter-splits/Asdfasd wrote:
Total myth bolt doesnt have great start. He is fastest ever at every aspect of race. Im impressed he's still got it.
well almost true.
he's probably got the all time record to 40 m and beyond. and maybe 30m.
maybe someone is better to 20m.
Nope nope nope wrote:
officials are human and can't press the button exactly when they cross the line
Actually you can press the button pretty accurately if you're good at it.
A sprinter moving 10 m/s is going 1 meter every .1 seconds. To be off by 1 whole meter you have to be blind or have some kind of nerve disorder. The reason it's not reliable for records is there's no way to keep blind dullards from becoming officials.
In workouts I notice every time I'm off by more than 20cm or so, but I don't worry about it because 20cm is nothing time-wise for workouts. Competent hand-timers won't be off by more than a few hundredths.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sD_8prYOxo&frags=pl%2CwnHandegg ftw wrote:
Handegg is a sport for fatties. I mean amaricans