the430miler wrote:
That's a very elite class that I'm in. I'm very proud of that. That is .000125% of humanity.
Where did you get that statistic? You do realize that, for the most part, only the Americans and British run
the mile. Have you been to every PE class in America and Britain? Have you read the stats from every track
& field meet? I say the answer to that question has got to be No.
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Two uber confident story tellers wrote:
I can tell both Coevett and Bad Wigins are confident men at cocktail parties. Humans need a distance far longer than one mile to outrun a horse.
on the other hand, these two gents barely need a paragraph to make an ass of themselves.
Ever see a wolf race a turkey trot?
Even fewer have run sub 4:27, something you have never not ever will run, loser. Your stupid threads were old a decade ago.
the430miler wrote:
Brojos help! wrote:
Brojos were vigilant last year or 2016 when a legit 3:45 Marathoner claimed to be a 3:15 Marathoner. When are Brojos going to put a stop to this nonsense from so-called 430miler? Earlier this week, so-called 430miler claimed he sprinted 22.xx 200m at age 34. I am certain 430miler is insane.
I'll still be running 24.xx at age 50. Mainly because I have more passion for running than you and all others younger than me.
Why are you so tubby then?
the430miler wrote:
That's a very elite class that I'm in. I'm very proud of that. That is .000125% of humanity.
Months ago I had no reason to doubt you were once a sub-4:30 miler then four days ago you stated on letsrun you sprinted 22.xx 200m at age 34. I will state now: you are not a sub-4:30 milers and you never sprinted sub-23 200m. I believe that you are mentally ill enough to believe you are a sub-4:30 one miler and mentally ill enough to believe you are a sub-23 200m sprinter.
Two uber confident story tellers wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
While not even a racehorse can run a 4:30 mile, it is false that a human is low down the food chain. Humans had weapons before they were even humans - our ape ancestors invented spears millions of years ago and evolved bipedalism and power-gripping hands expressly for the purpose of using them. By the time we could throw them accurately it was game over.
Also having no fur allows the ultra dudes to run animals down that can't sweat.
I can tell both Coevett and Bad Wigins are confident men at cocktail parties. Stick out one's chin, stick out one's chest, lower one's voice octave and everyone believes you.
Kentucky Derby Horse Race Track is 1 1/4 miles. 1973 Secretariat set current track record: 1:59 2/5. 2018, Justify won Kentucky Derby 1 1/4 mile race in 2:04.20. One mile is 80% of 1 1/4 mile. In general thoroughbred race horses race the first half faster than the second half. We can state with confidence, Secretariat must have passed one mile in roughly 95 seconds in 1973 Kentucky Derby. Justify must have passed one mile in roughly 99 seconds in 2018 Kentucky Derby. Thorough bred race horses are more than twice as fast as humans over one mile. Humans need a distance far longer than one mile to outrun a horse.
You could just google the actual mile record. I'm not going to but it is likely close to 1:31 depending on the surface. Even the horse equivalent of racewalking has records under 1:45.
There actually is no practical distance that a human can outrun a horse. The ways used to bring them closer together are gimmicky and use essentially hobbyjogger horses.
Endurance horses even do 100 mile races almost twice as fast as a very good ultra runner.
physics defiant wrote:
Two uber confident story tellers wrote:
I can tell both Coevett and Bad Wigins are confident men at cocktail parties. Stick out one's chin, stick out one's chest, lower one's voice octave and everyone believes you.
Kentucky Derby Horse Race Track is 1 1/4 miles. 1973 Secretariat set current track record: 1:59 2/5. 2018, Justify won Kentucky Derby 1 1/4 mile race in 2:04.20. One mile is 80% of 1 1/4 mile. In general thoroughbred race horses race the first half faster than the second half. We can state with confidence, Secretariat must have passed one mile in roughly 95 seconds in 1973 Kentucky Derby. Justify must have passed one mile in roughly 99 seconds in 2018 Kentucky Derby. Thorough bred race horses are more than twice as fast as humans over one mile. Humans need a distance far longer than one mile to outrun a horse.
You could just google the actual mile record. I'm not going to but it is likely close to 1:31 depending on the surface. Even the horse equivalent of racewalking has records under 1:45.
There actually is no practical distance that a human can outrun a horse. The ways used to bring them closer together are gimmicky and use essentially hobbyjogger horses.
Endurance horses even do 100 mile races almost twice as fast as a very good ultra runner.
I knew about a horse, Dr. Fager, Arlington Park, one mile, 92 2/5. I could not find the date so I did not list. Many know of Secretariat, so I stated what I stated. Humans or pre-homo sapiens have run down deer-like mammals. I do believe the best runners amongst us can run a horse to death or outrace horses at roughly 25 miles.
On March 20, Yousuf Ahmad Al Beloushi rewrote another world record on 11-year-old grey gelding Jayhal Shazal according to gulfnews.com.
The pair set the pace for the entire 160 kilometers (100 miles), completing the race in 5:45:44.
Charlandre El Sharif, a horse trained by Al Beloushi, held the previous world record of 6:21:12 with Al Beloushi’s younger brother Sultan Ahmad Al Beloushi.
Yousuf averaged 17 mph during the ride and in the final loop averaged 22 mph. Yousuf also holds the record for 120km.
The top three finishers all came in under six hours.
https://www.chronofhorse.com/article/world-endurance-record-broken
I did not say humans can outrun every horse. When lions run down gazelles, the lion runs down the old, very young, sick or weak gazelles. I am sure some humans can run down or out run some horses over twenty-five miles. There have been races between humans and horses over twenty-five miles. Another poster stated elite horses do not race in those gimmick races. The elite Marathon runners do not race in those gimmick races either.
Something you are all omitting about secretariat is what happened after he died.
He was taken to a science lab and cut open to see why he was so fast. Scientists were psychologically SHOCKED. His heart was 3 times any horse heart they have ever seen. His horse lungs were 4 times any horse lungs they have ever seen. His horse organs were bigger and better than all other the other horses. Because his heart was bigger, that not only meant he could pump more blood. It also meant he had more love for running that the other horses. He was bigger and better than all of the other horses. In other words, he was alot like the republic of texas. Bigger and better.
My handle 430miler, comes from me REPEATEDLY running an average mile time of 430. But my p.r. is 427, and of course my 1500 time in college is extremely faster than that.
Bigger organs mean faster horses.
Bigger hearts mean more love and passion.
Count them for me please.
the430miler wrote:
My handle 430miler, comes from me REPEATEDLY running an average mile time of 430. But my p.r. is 427, and of course my 1500 time in college is extremely faster than that.
Hmmm . . . you math skills . . . hmmmm. To average 430 you would have to have run ever mile you ever ran within a very tight time range. A single 5:00 mile drags your average up, up, up. You would need a lot of 4:27s to bring it back to a 430 average.
averager wrote:
the430miler wrote:
My handle 430miler, comes from me REPEATEDLY running an average mile time of 430. But my p.r. is 427, and of course my 1500 time in college is extremely faster than that.
Hmmm . . . you math skills . . . hmmmm. To average 430 you would have to have run ever mile you ever ran within a very tight time range. A single 5:00 mile drags your average up, up, up. You would need a lot of 4:27s to bring it back to a 430 average.
He also never ran the 1500 in college. He flunked out of college after college, none of which had a track team. His only college hobby was getting beat up by old politicians.
proof? wrote:
do you have evidence of your 4:30 mile? of a 4:40 mile?
I'm more interested in how he can type all this after filing a lawsuit claiming he lost 60% of the use of his right arm while impersonating and stealing other identities to make false claims from bogus email addresses to news agencies.
the430miler wrote:
My handle 430miler, comes from me REPEATEDLY running an average mile time of 430. But my p.r. is 427, and of course my 1500 time in college is extremely faster than that.
I ran D2 in S.I.A.C. What conference were you a college student-athlete?
The only mile result I'm seeing for barrett dahl is a 4:31 mile ran at some meet called midwest city? Is that in Oklahoma?
So that sounds about right. If he ran 431 then I will go ahead and believe his 427. If this little turd really wanted to lie about his times then he would be saying hes ran a 4 minute mile. I do see several 1500 meter race results from what appears to be his college years.
427 isnt that fast nowadays. But I'm sure it was fast for an Oklahoma kid in 2005 when he was in high school.
In this increasingly sedentary, overweight world of nearly 8 billion people, even a 6:00 mile would be elite and rare. I am quite sure that less than 5% can run under 6:00 for the mile except in Africa or parts of the rural world where people are still very much in shape.
Under 5:00 would certainly be under 1%.
Go on your Facebook friends list or look through your high school yearbook, and tell me how many can even run a 7:00 mile.
Dude, I am a fat old guy, and I can outrun "some" old horses over a mile. 100 miles in < 6 hours is faster than ANY elite marathoner over 25 miles. Stop backpedaling ... and just admit that you were wrong.
Two uber confident story tellers wrote:
I did not say humans can outrun every horse. When lions run down gazelles, the lion runs down the old, very young, sick or weak gazelles. I am sure some humans can run down or out run some horses over twenty-five miles. There have been races between humans and horses over twenty-five miles. Another poster stated elite horses do not race in those gimmick races. The elite Marathon runners do not race in those gimmick races either.
None of my statements on this thread conflict. Do you understand how men chase down deer like creatures? Do you understand how ancient man or pre-homo sapiens chased down horse like creatures or deer like creatures? Never focus on chasing/hunting the fastest mammal in the pack. Elite men do not have a chance racing an average horse in a mile. Unless we're talking about a horse very near death, humans cannot outrun horses over one mile.