Coevett wrote:
I think some Americans here are just bitter that a second Ingebrigsten just destroyed Jim Ryun...
That's the power of asthma inhalers.
Coevett wrote:
I think some Americans here are just bitter that a second Ingebrigsten just destroyed Jim Ryun...
That's the power of asthma inhalers.
Netherlandish_Proverbs wrote:
Dope Meter Maid wrote:
F. Inge falls over in his 1500ht on lap 3 loses loads of ground, makes it all up way too aggressively but still holds on to all but win the heat. OK the winning time was only 3.40 but it was speeding up, there seems no physical limit to what he can do.
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Scottish supplements: Haggis
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Coevett wrote:
shadey wrote:
don't worry, Coevette will be all over this. He is an avid anti-doper.
It's o.k., the 3rd Kenyan failing a test in 10 days proves definitively that every runner in Europe is juiced to the gills. You don't have to provide more 'logic', surely?
I think some Americans here are just bitter that a second Ingebrigsten just destroyed Jim Ryun...
Jim Ryun was a 1:39/3:24 guy. Which Ingerbragstone can hang with that?
Coevett wrote:
shadey wrote:
don't worry, Coevette will be all over this. He is an avid anti-doper.
It's o.k., the 3rd Kenyan failing a test in 10 days proves definitively that every runner in Europe is juiced to the gills. You don't have to provide more 'logic', surely?
I think some Americans here are just bitter that a second Ingebrigsten just destroyed Jim Ryun...
Ryun’s last lap in his 1500 WR/PR was 53.3. 3:31 with near-perfect splits in a loss is much less impressive.
Ghost of Dusseldorf wrote:
Coevett wrote:
It's o.k., the 3rd Kenyan failing a test in 10 days proves definitively that every runner in Europe is juiced to the gills. You don't have to provide more 'logic', surely?
I think some Americans here are just bitter that a second Ingebrigsten just destroyed Jim Ryun...
Ryun’s last lap in his 1500 WR/PR was 53.3. 3:31 with near-perfect splits in a loss is much less impressive.
Ryun's last lap in his 3:33.1 was given as 53.3 in some sources but 53.6 in others (including T&FN at the time, which gave his last 440 as 53.9).
As impressive as Ryun's run was, it is no more impressive than a 3:31.1 by a 17 year old!
I'd say that the difference of 2.0 secs is also about the difference between the track surfaces. Ryun's run was probably equivalent to a 3:31.1 on synthetic tracks, so it makes it equal in time to Ingebritsen, probably a bit better as Monaco seems to be even faster than 80's synthetic track, and yes, Ryun's splits were not as evenly distributed as the youngsters. But 17!! That brings them back to equal footing in my opinion.
Deanouk wrote:
Ghost of Dusseldorf wrote:
Ryun’s last lap in his 1500 WR/PR was 53.3. 3:31 with near-perfect splits in a loss is much less impressive.
Ryun's last lap in his 3:33.1 was given as 53.3 in some sources but 53.6 in others (including T&FN at the time, which gave his last 440 as 53.9).
As impressive as Ryun's run was, it is no more impressive than a 3:31.1 by a 17 year old!
I'd say that the difference of 2.0 secs is also about the difference between the track surfaces. Ryun's run was probably equivalent to a 3:31.1 on synthetic tracks, so it makes it equal in time to Ingebritsen, probably a bit better as Monaco seems to be even faster than 80's synthetic track, and yes, Ryun's splits were not as evenly distributed as the youngsters. But 17!! That brings them back to equal footing in my opinion.
Eh. Ryun’s PR is 3:33, not 3:31. Slower track? Maybe. But stop trying to make excuses. Why brag about him closing a 3:33 race in 53.x when he should have run a faster time with maybe a 55 second last 400 instead? Jakob and Filip are better than he ever was, sorry you’re bitter about it!
Cool story, bro. How about you check the global championship medal tallies in the 1500m between USA and Norwegia?
PrZ wrote:
Deanouk wrote:
Ryun's last lap in his 3:33.1 was given as 53.3 in some sources but 53.6 in others (including T&FN at the time, which gave his last 440 as 53.9).
As impressive as Ryun's run was, it is no more impressive than a 3:31.1 by a 17 year old!
I'd say that the difference of 2.0 secs is also about the difference between the track surfaces. Ryun's run was probably equivalent to a 3:31.1 on synthetic tracks, so it makes it equal in time to Ingebritsen, probably a bit better as Monaco seems to be even faster than 80's synthetic track, and yes, Ryun's splits were not as evenly distributed as the youngsters. But 17!! That brings them back to equal footing in my opinion.
Eh. Ryun’s PR is 3:33, not 3:31. Slower track? Maybe. But stop trying to make excuses. Why brag about him closing a 3:33 race in 53.x when he should have run a faster time with maybe a 55 second last 400 instead? Jakob and Filip are better than he ever was, sorry you’re bitter about it!
What??
I'm saying that Jacob Ingebritsen's run is at least as good as Ryun's!
I know Ryun's best was 3:33.1 (not 3:31.1), but as it was on cinders, I would estimate it would have been about 2 secs faster on a synthetic track. I'm not one of these fantasists that believe Ryun was capable of 1:39/3:24, but he was certainly one of the most talented milers ever to set foot on a track, and transported to a synthetic track of the 1980's and given decent pacing, I believe he would likely have run 3:29/3:30, which makes him faster than Centro, Scott and Webb.
But a 17 year old running 3:31.1 is right up there.
Coevett wrote:
shadey wrote:
don't worry, Coevette will be all over this. He is an avid anti-doper.
It's o.k., the 3rd Kenyan failing a test in 10 days proves definitively that every runner in Europe is juiced to the gills. You don't have to provide more 'logic', surely?
I think some Americans here are just bitter that a second Ingebrigsten just destroyed Jim Ryun...
Seriously, you imbecile? You bring Kenya into an Ingebrigtsen thread?
FFS...
QC wrote:
Netherlandish_Proverbs wrote:
Icelandic supplements: Root beer and Cod liver oil
Norwegian supplements: Strawberry jam, Ale
Scottish supplements: Haggis
Don’t knock it until you try it.
Don't forget...
Finnish supplements: Reindeer Milk
I bet Viren regrets making that JOKE about reindeer milk back in '76.
Filip's recovery was incredible. Watch it for yourself.
https://youtu.be/51AuwZA5McU?t=1m59s
I've started a separate thread to talk about the 1500 final.
PrZ wrote:
Eh. Ryun’s PR is 3:33, not 3:31. Slower track? Maybe. But stop trying to make excuses. Why brag about him closing a 3:33 race in 53.x when he should have run a faster time with maybe a 55 second last 400 instead? Jakob and Filip are better than he ever was, sorry you’re bitter about it!
A 3:33 world record-setting win with imperfect pacing on a slower surface, versus a 3:31 also-ran with perfect pacing to the tape on a faster surface.
Because running a certain time off of a slower pace is indicative of greater than necessary fitness. So yes, as you’re saying, he could have run even faster with an even pace. Thanks for proving my point.
It looks to me that he paced himself well to place in the top three, but nothing incredible.
However, it is strange how he insists to stay on the rail, which could result in some problems.
Result 1500m European Champs 2018:
1. Filip Ingebritesen (NOR) 3:40.2
2. Jacob Ingebrigsten (NOR) 3:40.2
3. Henrik Ingebritsen (NOR) 3:40.3
Iggybringsting and Ingerbragstone were also close, but correctly wtitten it is Iggyspringsteen.
Or Ingebrigtsen?
Almost like that famous 1500m WR from 1957 in Turku:
1. Olavi Salsola (FIN) 3:40.2
2. Olavi Salonen (FIN) 3:40,2
3. Olavi Vuorisalo (FIN) 3:40.3
The very next day Stanislav Jungwirth ran 3:38.1...
Dope Meter Maid wrote:
Plus, he barged Kimeli trying to force himself through on the inside (why? after a fall should run wide) and showed off massively after the finish. Basically a bit of a twat. Crowd loved it though.
What crowd?
ex-runner wrote:
Go Sweden wrote:
According to nrk he got spiked and the wound goes all the way to the bone.... wonder what it does for the final
He is a skinny f*ck though, probably just 6mm deep.
He'll get stitches and be fine, Filip is head an shoulders better than anyone else in Europe. I've been saying it for a year whilst everyone was hanging medals around Jakob's neck.
Filip is the one.
You've been saying for a year that the bronze medalist in the World Championships is better than his 17 year old brother?
Congrats.
It never fails wrote:
Dope Meter Maid wrote:
Basically a bit of a twat. Crowd loved it though.
The posters on this website are the saddest people on the planet. Hates people celebrating, running tactical. Anything other than a time-trial at every race is condemned. And then if they run that kind race and post a good time, they're immediately accused of doping. What a bunch of nerds.
Agreed. Keyboard warriors.
Dope Meter Maid wrote:
F. Inge falls over in his 1500ht on lap 3 loses loads of ground, makes it all up way too aggressively but still holds on to all but win the heat. OK the winning time was only 3.40 but it was speeding up, there seems no physical limit to what he can do.
Editor's note: Filip's recovery was incredible. Watch it for yourself.
https://youtu.be/51AuwZA5McU?t=1m59s
Jesus Christ. There are more people running on the track than there are watching in the stands
No one cares about track, by the look of it
said88 wrote:
Result 1500m European Champs 2018:
1. Filip Ingebritesen (NOR) 3:40.2
2. Jacob Ingebrigsten (NOR) 3:40.2
3. Henrik Ingebritsen (NOR) 3:40.3
Iggybringsting and Ingerbragstone were also close, but correctly wtitten it is Iggyspringsteen.
Or Ingebrigtsen?
Almost like that famous 1500m WR from 1957 in Turku:
1. Olavi Salsola (FIN) 3:40.2
2. Olavi Salonen (FIN) 3:40,2
3. Olavi Vuorisalo (FIN) 3:40.3
The very next day Stanislav Jungwirth ran 3:38.1...
I think you mean Ingle-brix-ten.
score czech wrote:
Cool story, bro. How about you check the global championship medal tallies in the 1500m between USA and Norwegia?
Counting all events, Norway has many more medals per capita.