I'm excited to learn all 3 Ingebrigtsens - Henrik, Filip, Jakob - have made Friday's final.
A medal sweep by them would be historic and I'm trying to figure out how likely it is to occur..
At 3:30.01 (#3 in the world), 25 year old Filip - the bronze medallist at Worlds last year - has the edge as he's the fastest of all of the finalists. 17-year old Jakob - the 4th fastest man in the world at 3:31.18 - is the next fastest man in the world this year. The next three fastest finalists however are not named Ingebrigtsen - it's the three Brits.
3 3:32.11 Chris O'Hare GBR 20 Jul 2018
4 3:33.96 Jake Wightman GBR 20 Jul 2018
5 3:34.20 Charlie Grice GBR
Former 800 man Marcin Lewsadowski, who won World Indoor silver earlier this year in the 1500, is the 6th seed at 3:35.06. Then at 3:35.61 and the #6 seed is the eldest Ingebrigtsen, 27-year old Henrik, who ran 13:16 back in early May at Stanford. The only other man in the field this year under 3:36 is Belgium's Ismael Debjani at 3:35.71.
Having looked at those names, I have to predict the a medal sweep will not occur. While it certainly could happen, the odds are certainly less than 50%. That being said, it certainly could happen and Henrik should not be discounted as a medal contender. While Henrik but he hasn't broken 3:34.57 since 2015, he was afterall 5th in the 2012 Olympics, has a pb of 3:31.46 and was only .39 behind Centrowitz when Centrowitz won in London a few weeks ago.
So here is my prediction.
Picking the winner is easy. I know half the messageboard is obsessed with potential and always talking about the next great runner. That type of thinking is fun but it drives me nuts at time. Jakob is a teen phenom, but Filip is going to win the gold. He's in INSANE form right now. Watch him fall in his heat today and still catchup to the leaders within the span of 300 meters.
https://youtu.be/51AuwZA5McU?t=1m59s
That's ridiculous. I'll give another medal to another Ingebrigtsen - most likely Jakob - and then say the third medal to Lewandowski.
Let me hear your thoughts.
Rojo
PS. Have all 3 of the Ingebrigtsens ever raced in the same race before?
PPS. Actually, I'm starting to get a little nervous about Filip. He hasn't won a 1500 race at all since winning Euros in 2016. It can be hard to run as a favorite. I think he should just run and think I'm not taking the lead under any circumstance until the final 150. And my predictions are based on him not being too badly injured. Apparently, he skipped out on some interviews as he was spiked down to the bone and needed treatment.
Getting ready for Friday's European 1500 men's final - Can the Ingebrigtsens sweep? Who has the edge?
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O'Hare will medal:
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Filip could be screwed from effort in semis + deep spiking. Henrik likely doesn’t have a chance. Jakob has had impressive results in paced races but if it goes out tactical he might even be pushed out of the medals, especially with his teammates not in top 1500 form.
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rtjhty wrote:
You should ban the big racist poster on your website. This place was a lot (OK, a bit) better without him.
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Filip will win unless he falls again. I think one other Ingebrigtsen will medal, but the sweep most likely wont happen. In A tactical race Henrik could easily medal, while Jakob is Edged out (or boxed in). If the race is strung out from the start Jakob is a better bet than Henrik.
My guess:
1. Filip
2. O’hare
3. Jakob
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rojo wrote:
5 3:34.20 Charlie Grice GBR
Do you mean Charles Maxwell Da'Vall Grice-Cawder? -
Ex-runnner wrote:
rojo wrote:
rtjhty wrote:
You should ban the big racist poster on your website. This place was a lot (OK, a bit) better without him.
What poster?
Me of course
That's Coevett for you, rojo.
He hates the poster with the handle "ex-runner" so he created this stupid "Ex-runnner" handle, thinking no one notices. -
rojo wrote: PS. Have all 3 of the Ingebrigtsen's ever raced in the same race before?
on 27 May 2017 all three of them raced a mile, in Eugene, but Filip was in the Bowerman mile and Henrik and Jakob were in the International mile.
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Cottonshirt wrote:
rojo wrote: PS. Have all 3 of the Ingebrigtsen's ever raced in the same race before?
on 27 May 2017 all three of them raced a mile, in Eugene, but Filip was in the Bowerman mile and Henrik and Jakob were in the International mile.
cheers.
Sooo, no. Thank you for the extraneous information. -
Poor reading comprehension wrote:
Cottonshirt wrote:
rojo wrote: PS. Have all 3 of the Ingebrigtsen's ever raced in the same race before?
on 27 May 2017 all three of them raced a mile, in Eugene, but Filip was in the Bowerman mile and Henrik and Jakob were in the International mile.
cheers.
Sooo, no. Thank you for the extraneous information.
And the superfluous apostrophe which rojo correctly did not include in that quote, but incorrectly did in the thread title.
How is it that old men who write too much never learned correct use of the apostrophe? -
Poor reading comprehension said: Sooo, no. Thank you for the extraneous information.
I would agree, you do have poor reading comprehension.
I didn't say that the three brothers have not raced together; that is an assumption you are making.
they may have raced each other at school, or in some domestic fixture in Norway, or in some local meet somewhere else in the world not reported in the main online databases. to be sufficiently certain of yourself to answer "no," to ROJO's question would require access to a far more comprehensive database than I have, or perhaps access to their personal logs, or the brothers themselves. I don't have any of those things, and for that reason chose specifically not to offer a definitive answer.
your complete guess might be right. but then if we all went around guessing these things it wouldn't be "data" any longer, would it.
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"He's in INSANE form right now. Watch him fall in his heat today and still catchup to the leaders within the span of 300 meters."
Yes, he is, but also watch him doing dumb things over and over — accelerating on the first lane just to be blocked (at least 3 times ), and fall in one occasion.
I believe, Henrik should take it for the family and make the race fast. Faster they go better the chances for Filip and Jakob to go 1 and 2. Otherwise, Lewandowski or O'Hare may steal the show. -
Good preview!
Observation: Henrik hasn't really been injury free since that 3.34.57. Until now that is. When asked yesterday about his capacity he said that his speed is better than he has been in years (endurance at ATH), but still a little behind Filip and Jakob. He also said he felt comfortable that he could run a 3:34 and it felt like he wanted to say a faster time when he said it.
Observation 2: Both Jakob and Filip pretty much said yesterday that they have NEVER tested better than they do right now.
Observation 3:Gjert hinted yesterday that the brothers might "time trial" the race. That way you should be left with the guys with the highest capacity and thus reduce the element of luck and then hopefully increaste the chance of an 1-2-3.
If they do what Gjert says, run fast, I'm pretty certain they will do a 1-2 with Filip and Jakob. However, I think Henrik will probably struggle with a couple of brits.
Oh: Henrik Ingebrigtsen said the chance of a 1-2-3 is higher than the chance to roll 6 on a dice yesterday, so small but doable then?
My guess: 1-2-5 (Order: Filip,Jakob,Henrik of course) -
ghost of monti wrote:
O'Hare will medal:
https://twitter.com/d9monti/status/1027135881453477888
Henrik had 52.7, and he is slow and can't do speed workouts cause of his hamstring injury..... -
In a slow race, don't underestimate the 1:44 dude Wightman.
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Oh, dear, rojo. Would you please edit the thread title and take out the apostrophe from "Ingebrigtsens"?
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p.n. wrote:
Oh, dear, rojo. Would you please edit the thread title and take out the apostrophe from "Ingebrigtsens"?
Thanks.
Done.
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rojo wrote:
p.n. wrote:
Oh, dear, rojo. Would you please edit the thread title and take out the apostrophe from "Ingebrigtsens"?
Thanks.
Done.
Please [vote] in our poll on the [front] page.
1) Thanks for the rapid response/correction!
2) I looked through the site's entire front page, and also searched for the words "vote" and "poll"--and came up empty. Sorry. I'll check back later. -
p.n. wrote:
Oh, dear, rojo. Would you please edit the thread title and take out the apostrophe from "Ingebrigtsens"?
Thanks.
Done.
Please vote in our poll on the front page.
Also I've found a nice article in the Norwegian press on them where oldes and youngest brother both say Filip is the favorite. Henrik says there is a 20% chance they sweep. The dad says he doesn't care who wins.
Two translations:
Bing:
https://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=https://www.tv2.no/a/10012771/
Google:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tv2.no%2Fa%2F10012771%2F&edit-text=&act=url -
rojo wrote:
Done.
Would you please fix the typos in the first post on this thread as well?
