Speedvs wrote:
Semiler wrote:
It is also my understanding that training for all three borhters during summer will focus on speed rather than endurance.
Why is that your understanding? As far as I know they are pretty heavy on the endurance part and doesn't do much speed training..
Trening remains the same with endurance based/threshold trening. Why do the people on this create lies?
It is 100% true that what I said is my understanding.
Untill technology can read minds the individual him/herself is superiour in determining what his/her understanding is. How can you outright say it is a lie?
Speedvs wrote:
Why is that your understanding? As far as I know they are pretty heavy on the endurance part and doesn't do much speed training..
1. Vebjørn Rodal said that the Ingebrigtsens haven't even started speed-training yet when commenting at NRK tv during Bowerman Mile. Also said that Jakob has limited speed resources at the time beeing.
2. Henrik Ingebrigtsen has reported that he is currently too slow and has problems maintaining a speed og 24-25 kmh before Eugene 2 mile run, but hopes to maintain a faster speed during season.
3. It makes sense to do speed training during racing season due to faster recovery.
4. Previously all Ingebrigtsens have pointed out the need for a high speed capacity of around 50+ last round to be able to win a world championship/olympics in 1500m.
By speed training I would suppose 800m speed.
hmmmmmmj wrote:
SprintTriathlon wrote:
So only sprinters are allowed to be cocky?
I think cockiness is good for the sport, it attracts attention and creates discussions at forums like letsrun.com
when did i ever say sprinters could be? i dont like cockiness full stop, i think attention to the sport is much needed but if this is the only way then theres something wrong...
Why do you think people were more interested in tennis in the 1980s?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Nyc9jzSDgwell,, wrote:
Why do you think people were more interested in tennis in the 1980s?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Nyc9jzSDg
+1
well,, wrote:
hmmmmmmj wrote:
when did i ever say sprinters could be? i dont like cockiness full stop, i think attention to the sport is much needed but if this is the only way then theres something wrong...
Why do you think people were more interested in tennis in the 1980s?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Nyc9jzSDg
The top tennis players clear more than the top NBA, NFL, and MLB stars in endorsements (look at the top 3 in each sport). I would say it's plenty popular.
kartelite wrote:
The top tennis players clear more than the top NBA, NFL, and MLB stars in endorsements (look at the top 3 in each sport). I would say it's plenty popular.
Well, tennis is after all a world sport, not a local curiosity.
Semiler wrote:
It is 100% true that what I said is my understanding.
Untill technology can read minds the individual him/herself is superiour in determining what his/her understanding is. How can you outright say it is a lie?
Because my relation to Gjert is the reason and to know that pure speed training is not his filosofi. Er du Norsk?
Why aren't they separated over THREE events?
I assume they have the same shoe sponsor and possibly other common sponsors as well - separating them as much as possible would maximize the effect of the athlete family narrative during the meet.
Semiler wrote:
Speedvs wrote:
Why is that your understanding? As far as I know they are pretty heavy on the endurance part and doesn't do much speed training..
1. Vebjørn Rodal said that the Ingebrigtsens haven't even started speed-training yet when commenting at NRK tv during Bowerman Mile. Also said that Jakob has limited speed resources at the time beeing.
2. Henrik Ingebrigtsen has reported that he is currently too slow and has problems maintaining a speed og 24-25 kmh before Eugene 2 mile run, but hopes to maintain a faster speed during season.
3. It makes sense to do speed training during racing season due to faster recovery.
4. Previously all Ingebrigtsens have pointed out the need for a high speed capacity of around 50+ last round to be able to win a world championship/olympics in 1500m.
By speed training I would suppose 800m speed.
1. Thats because Gjert said that, and he didn't mean "speed", he said they hadn't done much track workouts. This doesn't mean "speed", just hard workouts on the track. Could be anything from 3000m to 200m speed. Probably mostly 1500m speed. As is their style.
2. Henrik is slow because of the surgery to his hamstring, hes already said he would focus on 3k/5k this year because his hamstring can't handle speed. He would not be able to do much "speed" training when even 1500m speed is hard for his hamstring. Hes barely had any workouts on the track since last summer.
3. ....
4. Sure they would work on some speed, but thats never been their focus, nothing pointing to them doing it more this year.
hmmmmmmj wrote:
SprintTriathlon wrote:
So only sprinters are allowed to be cocky?
I think cockiness is good for the sport, it attracts attention and creates discussions at forums like letsrun.com
when did i ever say sprinters could be? i dont like cockiness full stop, i think attention to the sport is much needed but if this is the only way then theres something wrong...
Personalities is THE way. Bolt, Ali, Lance, Borg etc
Theres different types, but you need the cocky guys.
Nothing?
Centro got olympic gold for a 3:50. Jakob got a 3rd at a b-class race for 3:36.
SprintTriathlon wrote:
kartelite wrote:
The top tennis players clear more than the top NBA, NFL, and MLB stars in endorsements (look at the top 3 in each sport). I would say it's plenty popular.
Well, tennis is after all a world sport, not a local curiosity.
NBA has a very global fan base, not so much the others. I live on the other side of the world in a country that has never produced an NBA player...and last Tuesday at 10am I went to a sports bar to watch Game 7 of the conference finals (not NBA finals, mind you) and it was standing room only. Anyway, maybe tennis is not as popular as it was back in the US, but that's partly because American men's tennis has been pretty bad for over a decade. Last year's Aussie Open final was the most watched match ever (over 1 million viewers just in the US despite it being on at 3:30am).
Semiler wrote:
Nothing?
Centro got olympic gold for a 3:50. Jakob got a 3rd at a b-class race for 3:36.
What are you replying to?
Soprano wrote:
SprintTriathlon wrote:
Jakob just ran the mile (which Filip and Henrik didn't), and has a nice chance of getting a personal best at the 1500 with a good field where 11 have better times than him.
Actually, Henrik did run the international mile at Pre and only managed 3:58, compared to Jakob's 3:52 in the Bowerman Mile the same day. Henrik was doubling back from the 2 mile the day before though. And you are right that Jakob wants a 1500 PB.
separation anxiety wrote:
Because the older brothers are not ready mentally to take a beating by their kid brother yet. They will be kept apart until Jakob is a senior.
Ha, yeah I had the same thought. I have two brothers, so I know how sibling rivalries can go. I don't know, Jakob and Henrik both ran miles at Pre, but different races. Now ones in the mile and the other the 1500 at the same meet once again. Is Henrik avoiding a head-to-head with his younger bro. ;)
already wrote:
There already has been a huge thread on this
Really? Can you share the link, I must have missed it. Couldn't have been that huge or it would have came up in the most clicked threads list I have access to.
Henrick 2 mile plus one mile races... This has to be training for 5k.
Croze wrote:
Semiler wrote:
Nothing?
Centro got olympic gold for a 3:50. Jakob got a 3rd at a b-class race for 3:36.
What are you replying to?
I just heard an interview with Filip in Norwegian tele. What does "Jeg mangler litt fartstrening" mean? Any Scandinavians want to clear it up. Does it really mean "Never will I do speed training"?
It means «I’m missing some speed training». I guess he will do more in the next weeks, after all he was injured for some time after Payton.
NEVER will they do speed training. Liar!
"- Når jeg får gjort litt fartstrening de neste ukene så skal jeg vise litt andre takter, så kan Vebjørn finne noe annet å kommentere, sier Filip Ingebrigtsen."
translates "never ever will I do speed training, and surely not this summer"
They took different routes home devastated.
