Sydney McLaughlin 50.07 at Florida relays!

Bhbjbjhbjhjbh wrote:

If she does better 49.42 this year (as a junior), why even bother with the 400H. You are simply risking injury.

Google Edwin Moses.

webby wrote:

Bhbjbjhbjhjbh wrote:

If she does better 49.42 this year (as a junior), why even bother with the 400H. You are simply risking injury.

Google Edwin Moses.

Ok, I did. Edwin Moses has a 45.60 PB over 400m. Yes, that's faster than Sydney, but certainly not world class for a "man.". What is your point?

Bhbjbjhbjhjbh wrote:

Very fast indeed for a 400H specialist.

In the world all time 400H list, only Natalya Antyukh has a faster 400 PB (49.85). It is very possible that Sydney will better Antyukh's best before the end of the year. Who knows, Sydney could also best Okolo's Collegiate record of 49.71. Grit Breuer's world junior best of 49.42 may be a little too fast however (not since 2015 has a woman gone faster than 49.42).

If she does better 49.42 this year (as a junior), why even bother with the 400H. You are simply risking injury.

uhh... because a 49.42 puts her in range to run 52.34 400H (WR)

world? wrote:

Bhbjbjhbjhjbh wrote:

Very fast indeed for a 400H specialist.

In the world all time 400H list, only Natalya Antyukh has a faster 400 PB (49.85). It is very possible that Sydney will better Antyukh's best before the end of the year. Who knows, Sydney could also best Okolo's Collegiate record of 49.71. Grit Breuer's world junior best of 49.42 may be a little too fast however (not since 2015 has a woman gone faster than 49.42).

If she does better 49.42 this year (as a junior), why even bother with the 400H. You are simply risking injury.

uhh... because a 49.42 puts her in range to run 52.34 400H (WR)

She is already faster at 400m than the current 400H WR holder .

If she goes in the low 49s this year, (say 49.41 or faster), she will be off the chart. The thing is that she will also be off the chart as a 400m runner (no woman has gone faster than 49.44 since 2015).

A lot of speculation here. Right now, she ran 50.07, which is excellent.

is Syd the most talented sprinter weve ever seen? imo as an athlete most talented high schooler ever... somewhat bias ill admit as a big fan(I mean come on), but idk if anyone could have an argument for many people over her

Ggbybgyygby wrote:

webby wrote:

Google Edwin Moses.

Ok, I did. Edwin Moses has a 45.60 PB over 400m. Yes, that's faster than Sydney, but certainly not world class for a "man.". What is your point?

My point is that a hurdler holds the record for the longest winning streak in track and field history, which suggests that hurdling does not present an outsized injury risk.

rojo wrote:

Moves her to #2 all time on both US junior and NCAA list.

https://twitter.com/lsabre_Avenger/status/979794395674357760

49.71 Courtney Okolo (Texas) 04/23/16

50.07 Sydney 3/30/18

50.10 Monique Henderson (UCLA) 06/11/05

50.15 Natasha Hastings (South Carolina) 06/09/07

50.18(A) Pauline Davis’ (Alabama) 06/03/89

50.28 Ashley Spencer (Illinois) 06/07/13

50.32 DeeDee Trotter (Tennessee) 06/12/04

https://trackandfieldnews.com/index.php/tafn-lists?list_id=11&sex_id=W&yyear=2008

Grit Brauer had an East German coach and at age 20 was caught taking Clenbuterol.

Graham Handrichard wrote:

"Graeme Obree was twice individual pursuit world champion and two-time holder of the one-hour distance record, and is a man known for his analytical approach. ‘When you’re waiting for a downpour and it’s calm – that’s the sweet spot,’ he says. ‘The three perfect conditions are high temperature, high humidity and low atmospheric pressure. Humid summer evenings tend to be quicker, when you can almost smell the water in the air. You don’t get those conditions very often, and when they come together it’s like “wow”, you get your best form of the season. That’s the night when you should use your fastest wheels.’"

http://www.cyclist.co.uk/in-depth/917/are-you-faster-when-it-rains

The thing that you are missing is that it is not the relative humidity that matters a bit. 100% RH and 50 degrees means that the dew point is 50 degrees and the amount of water in the air is pretty low. So, since it is 67 and the RH at ground level is probably not 100% (that is happening at a higher elevation the causes the moister to precipitate) so the dew point is probably no more than 65. The difference in H2O in the air between the level Orbee is talking about (at least 75 for dew point and probably close to 80, is very large and the help for thinning the air is much lower with the dew point of 65. The real lesson is that for these types of issues, relative humidity is useless as a concept to use because it misleads people - it is the dew point that is the main factor here.

Also of importance is that as the temperature rises the air gets thinner (when it gets too hot in Phoenix they have to ground some of the planes that do not have enough lift to take off because the air is too thin). In addition, notice that Orgee also mentions low pressure because that means that the air is less dense. Of course, another way to diminish the density is to go to a higher elevation - think Beamon in Mexico City, and note to additional things, a huge thunderstorm started right after is jump, and the actual wind was almost certainly (90% chance) higher than 2.0 mps because the guy running the anniometer at the time had things screwed up and was rounding down all of the readings to the next lower integer, so the wind was anywhere in the range of 2.00 to 2.99 mps.

webby wrote:

My point is that a hurdler holds the record for the longest winning streak in track and field history, which suggests that hurdling does not present an outsized injury risk.

But I also know a guy who lost his leg due to a 400H hurdle injury.

Granted, the height of the hurdles in the women 400H is sort of a joke, so the chances of injury are probably less. She is 5ft9 and only has to negotiate a 2ft6 hurdle.