No money, and the woman who came in second said she didn't want Chandler Self DQ'ed
No money, and the woman who came in second said she didn't want Chandler Self DQ'ed
Definitely a DQ is warranted. Though there is no prize purse this year. Organizers have opted to use funds to bring in ambassadors such as Meb, Shalane, Lutz, Manzano, etc. Thus focusing on the local elites (Chandler Self is from the area though lives in NY). The young lady helping her was actually the last leg of a HS relay. Instead of blowing past her she elected to pace her the last 2.5mi. This proved to be a huge benefit for Self as she obviously went to jello. If it weren’t for this HS girl then Self may have had to roll, crawl, or just stop. The 2nd place marathoner Caitlin Keen was a good 2minutes behind during all of this. If $$$ or meaningful medals were on the line then I would have definitely protested if I were Keen or her coach.
Libertarian vegan wrote:
Someone get her a Snickers bar, don't she know your not you when your hungry.
Close ... it's "you are not you when you are hungry."
She's one tough mfer.
The real question is, will Boston still accept this as a BQ?
Sadly this would be a DQ if it were raced at most larger races. But what's heroic in a sense, is the next time you think you're giving it your all in a race think of this poor lady. Ive raced some pretty hard and gut wrenching races, but none that made me resort to crawling to a finish line. Think I might hold off another year before switching to any marathons after watching that!!
What would cause this -- dehydration? Exhaustion? I've never seen this happen.
I love how people are calling this winner "heroic". What the hell is "heroic" about this? Her doing this will have an impact on exactly zero peoples' lives.
If the assist-er is actually a HS relay team the perhaps is a member of the XC and T&F program so her coach should be fired for not teaching her the rules RE pacing and giving assistance.
(Yep, goes for all the hobby jogger sign holding pacers too. And the Footlocker singlet dropouts. You're fired buckoos)
BigD2017 wrote:
What would cause this -- dehydration? Exhaustion? I've never seen this happen.
Glycogen depletion. Fairly common in marathons and especially ironman triathlons.
Dutch wrote:
The TV station says this is "heroic". There is nothing heroic about this. It's a race. An example of heroic is people who saved Jews during WWII.
Thank you. An athlete pushing herself beyond her limits to win a race might reasonably be called many things (tough, determined, gritty...) but NOT heroic.
Dutch wrote:
The TV station says this is "heroic". There is nothing heroic about this. It's a race. An example of heroic is people who saved Jews during WWII.
Thank you. An athlete pushing herself beyond her limits to win a race might reasonably be called many things (tough, determined, gritty...) but NOT heroic. Nor is the girl who helped her to finish a hero--just a person doing what she thought was a favor for someone in need.
How in the world of holy something or other is she not DQ'd for that.
ooper wrote:
How in the world of holy something or other is she not DQ'd for that.
The Dallas Marathon is not actually a competitive running race. It is an “event” or “running opportunity” that is timed.
They didn’t do right by the woman who came it second. It was Caitlin (25 years old) Keen’s first marathon and she gave it everything the full 26.2 miles. Not just 26.1. I think Caitlin is reaching for a trials standard within the next few years and she demonstrated yesterday that with some more experience and training she will hands down achieve it. Hats off to her for being a class act.
I with another competitor would have blown by them with like 10 meters to go.
A no prize money race like Dallas cannot DQ someone like this because it would be a PR disaster. The average John Q. Public loves stories about people getting helped across the finish line at a marathon and does not understand why it should result in a DQ. So, these races end up doing things like having co-1st place winners and other silly things to keep everyone happy instead of following the rules.
hate this
How is this "heroic?"[/quote]
This is America. Everyone's a hero here.
I know this runner. She wouldn't have wanted the help. Not her fault.
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
I love how people are calling this winner "heroic". What the hell is "heroic" about this? Her doing this will have an impact on exactly zero peoples' lives.
Yeah thats always bothered #metoo. Someone who lines up for a road run willingly and gets tired and keeps trying despite the hurt is not a hero. She was determined - yasssssss. The real heros are the ones who balance job, career, child, and parties. Fact.