ANOTHER Ping? Jamison (9 years old) runs 17:48

I agree. Run it on the track and I will believe it. Road races in the US are seldom accurate.

Pretty sure it is accurate. It was on the Nike Heartland Regional course. Why would Nike make the course short? It is extremely flat and fast...froze the night before and had many races run on it previously that day. Fast course, but accurate.

Yeah right wrote:

I agree. Run it on the track and I will believe it. Road races in the US are seldom accurate.

Daniel Skandera ran 16:42 at 9 on a track. In October actually. Why couldn't the brother of Lauren and Grace Ping run 17:48?

psssu wrote:

rocking chair wrote:

The kid is 9, to run what he ran you have to train pretty seriously, same with the girls. They have been training pretty hard for years. Most young kids are playing games at that age, and they should be playing games at that age.

Sorry, this is a nutty parent either pushing them into this or nudging them strongly.

It's pu$$y mentalities like this that prevent us from competing with the Kenyans. They are all running at an young age.

They are not racing though.

Most don't compete until the are a junior aged 21

rocking chair wrote:

This Dad is off his rocker. Didn't he ever hear about the Garritson's?

Or, how bout that Jersey girl with the nut case Dad riding his bike with her on her training runs and coaching her?

Or, that NC nut job coaching his daughter the marathoner?

Wow, there are some wacko parents out there...........

I used to run with my 13 year old daughter, but I injured my hip in the summer and have not been able to run much. I do not like her running alone at certain times, so I have been riding my bicycle along with her on some of her runs. Do people who see me think I am a nut case? Should I wear a sign explaining my injury and safety concerns? Or should I just enjoy my time and laugh at all the people who like to judge without having any idea what is actually going on?

The course is at a soccer complex with not a hill in sight, you just do the same loop over and over. It isn't a road race. I'm sure the time is accurate.

You should wear a sign. (read it yourself as you try to rationalize your helicopter parenting)

Jamison Ping could be the next Budhia Singh, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budhia_Singh, a veteran of 50 'thons before the age of 5 and retired from competitive at age 13. Too bad his coach, Biranchi Das, was murdered in 2008 or who know s how far under 2:00 his 'thon PR would be today?

What grade is he in? He ran 18:09 at NXR this year.

If you enjoy running, why shouldn't you be able to do it at a younger age? I'm sure he's learned to enjoy it from his sisters and family, maybe he just wants to participate as well. There's always a risk of familial pressure but still, I think jumping to the conclusion that this is the worst thing that could be occurring to him right now is pretty extreme.

I think he is in 6h grade which means he will be competing for his HS next year.

rocking chair wrote:

This Dad is off his rocker. Didn't he ever hear about the Garritson's?

Or, how bout that Jersey girl with the nut case Dad riding his bike with her on her training runs and coaching her?

Or, that NC nut job coaching his daughter the marathoner?

Wow, there are some wacko parents out there...........

How about all the wacko child abusing trolls on Lets abuse kids.com.

Ping Zing 2 wrote:

Yeah right wrote:

I agree. Run it on the track and I will believe it. Road races in the US are seldom accurate.

Daniel Skandera ran 16:42 at 9 on a track. In October actually. Why couldn't the brother of Lauren and Grace Ping run 17:48?

http://age-records.125mb.com/

..and Skandera ran 15:49 a couple of weeks ago at age 10!!!!

In gymnastics, football, swimming, you name it other than xc, kids practice for hours a day from much younger, instead of "playing games." Why is it child abuse only in running? Serious question.

zxcvzxcv wrote:

In gymnastics, football, swimming, you name it other than xc, kids practice for hours a day from much younger, instead of "playing games." Why is it child abuse only in running? Serious question.

because running isn't inherently "fun"

When I played baseball I could just walk down to a local park and hit a ball off a tee for hours or mess around pitching at a backstop just for the heck of it

Distance running is a structured thing that really doesn't have much of a game-like aspect to it. It is the sport where you must put yourself intentionally in pain in order to accomplish a set goal

winnr1 wrote:

zxcvzxcv wrote:

In gymnastics, football, swimming, you name it other than xc, kids practice for hours a day from much younger, instead of "playing games." Why is it child abuse only in running? Serious question.

Distance running is a structured thing that really doesn't have much of a game-like aspect to it. It is the sport where you must put yourself intentionally in pain in order to accomplish a set goal

Swimming is desperately painful in competition but I don't see anyone giving parents crap for letting the kids compete and train hard. Some kids enjoy going hard. If they want to goof around more then there are plenty of other games out there.

6th grade? No definitive answer yet.

Obviously we have learned some things over the years. But the way to Olympic Gold is not through

peaking as a teenager.

I knew a kid in the early 1980s who was in 6th grade. He was the fastest elementary school kid

for the 50 yard dash in his school. He also ran half and full marathons. He of course did very

well against older people.

I asked him how he thought he would do in high school. He said he would not be running in

high school. He never did and he also did not stand out in another sport.

Hardloper wrote:

YMMV wrote:

Paul Tergat attended boarding school. Walked a few minutes max.

In primary school Paul Tergat says he ran 3 miles each way.

I thought he didn't take up running until his 20s and then he met Rosa?