Was Joe Kovacs robbed of world title? Was his last throw really a foul?

Pondo wrote:

In the replay you can see his foot graze the toe board mid-spin. Too bad.

you most definitely cannot see his foot actually touch the board in all of the replays nbc showed. you can see a blurry foot near the board but there's no frame that nbc showed that shows his foot touching the board. i'm not saying that his foot didn't touch the board -- it very well might have -- but the replays shown by nbc didn't show a foot touching the board.

So in other words, he threw the gold medal winner, but they DQ'd him over a technicality?

you moles, my grandma saw the foul on first replay

sternburg wrote:

you moles, my grandma saw the foul on first replay

Yep

randomcoach wrote:

I took a screen of the fault frame at home. Can post later if anyone still doubts in a couple hours. Impressive official to catch that in my opinion.

I'd like to see it if it's better than the LetsRun capture.

Here's a video. The replay is at 14:27-14:30. While it is not high enough resolution to have a frame where the foot is on top, but you can see his foot change angle after it goes over the top of the toe board.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rjg-XxJEc8

In the last round Kovacs was the only one who could deny Kovacs, he unleashed a monster throw over 22 meters, but before it could be measured the red flag was raised. They showed a replay of his feet, and he did not foul. The judge made it up. He knew he did nothing wrong too, you could hear him yell "oh f*ck off"

again, that video shows nothing other than a blurry foot in the area of the board. "changing angle" simply could be him pulling his foot back so he wouldn't touch the top. you are allowed to touch the side. post a still shot of his foot touching the TOP of the board.

The rules say that no part of the foot can touch the top of the toe board even at an angle when there's no advantage provided by the glancing contact. Throwers know about this rule and train to avoid this contact, but it's still a common foot foul.

kimani wrote:

randomcoach wrote:

I took a screen of the fault frame at home. Can post later if anyone still doubts in a couple hours. Impressive official to catch that in my opinion.

I'd like to see it if it's better than the LetsRun capture.

Hopefully this works:

Dr. Jensen wrote:

Other throwers did the same thing and no fouls were called. This was in a critical moment and the judge was ready to do all he could to help a fellow member of the Commonwealth hold on for a win.

That and Ryan Crouser was a bit off. When he's on none of the other guys have much chance of beating him.

I blame the shape-shifting, time-traveling, lizard-people who also shot Kennedy from a grassy knoll with a silver bullet for the red flag in the men's shot put final. The truth is in area 51.

i've watched a lot of SP in my time & never seen a foul called for such a throw

the only times i've ever seen fouls called have been foot noticeably touches top of platform with obviously protrusion of toe/foot over platform

i have never seen a foul called for a flimsy possible wafting of toe over the platform but with no discernible toe/foot contact on top of platform

this was a robbery !!!

Coolio2 wrote:

Pondo wrote:

In the replay you can see his foot graze the toe board mid-spin. Too bad.

you most definitely cannot see his foot actually touch the board in all of the replays nbc showed. you can see a blurry foot near the board but there's no frame that nbc showed that shows his foot touching the board. i'm not saying that his foot didn't touch the board -- it very well might have -- but the replays shown by nbc didn't show a foot touching the board.

Right exactly - so all of you a$$holes who are ripping the official, conjuring up conspiracy theories etc etc are basing everything on either live TV footage (sitting on your sofas 4000 miles away) or grainy screenshots.

Because you all know better than the official who was intensely concentrating on that toe board probably from 6 feet away?

I mean really guys? I don't mind a good debate but seriously what on f$#king earth are you guys on about?

calculo wrote:

i've watched a lot of SP in my time & never seen a foul called for such a throw

the only times i've ever seen fouls called have been foot noticeably touches top of platform with obviously protrusion of toe/foot over platform

i have never seen a foul called for a flimsy possible wafting of toe over the platform but with no discernible toe/foot contact on top of platform

this was a robbery !!!

This foot foul is called at practically every single meet.

randomcoach wrote:

kimani wrote:

I'd like to see it if it's better than the LetsRun capture.

Hopefully this works:

https://ibb.co/niHaUv

Thanks. You can clearly see the shoe bent over the edge in that frame, proving contact. Of course, even the above screenshot may not stop some of the "Kovacs wuz robbed" posters - there are none so blind as those who will not see.

I saw the replay, but I would like to see the same replay for a few other athletes to see if this infraction is commonly called. In the replay, you could see the judge watching like a hawk.

Perhaps we could go to LetsThrow.com for a better explanation.

randomcoach wrote:

I took a screen of the fault frame at home. Can post later if anyone still doubts in a couple hours. Impressive official to catch that in my opinion.

Probably he heard it as much as saw it.

Hard to question on replay.

Right call.

All you need to do is watch this youtube clip at the times stated above. Turn the speed to 0.25 on youtube's settings and then try to deny that his foot flicked the top of the barrier.

Bunch of effing "all you can eat" muppets trying to claim the Yank won.

???????? wrote:

After he was able to see the replay, he knew he was wrong. Looks like he was apologizing to officials.

Should be suspended for verbally abusing the official who was doing his job.