Jenny Simpson is the Greatest US 1500m runner EVER- male or female

You fool. She couldn't carry Mary Decker's jock strap.

No world records and was never number 1 in the world.

And Mary was number 1 from 800m to 10000m.

Now put that in your pipe in smoke it.

And don't say anything about PEDs, she did that at 37

Scorpion_runner wrote:

You fool. She couldn't carry Mary Decker's jock strap.

No world records and was never number 1 in the world.

And Mary was number 1 from 800m to 10000m.

Now put that in your pipe in smoke it.

And don't say anything about PEDs, she did that at 37

I'm still going to say it. She cheated.

Trackbot! Compare Jenny Simpson vs. Morgan Uceny

Head-to-head record between Jenny Simpson (left) and Morgan Uceny (right):

Spitzen Luzern 2008-07-16: 1500 m: 4:11.36 (9) VS 4:06.93 (1)

Jordan Stanford CA 2010-05-01: 1500 m: 4:08.11 (1) VS 4:09.13 (2)

High Perf Eagle Rock CA 2010-05-22: 800 m: 2:02.12 (4) VS 2:01.88 (2)

adidas New York NY 2010-06-12: 1500 m: 4:03.63 (4) VS 4:04.01 (6)

NC Eugene OR 2011-06-25: 1500 m: 4:05.66 (2) VS 4:03.91 (1)

Herc Monaco 2011-07-22: 1500 m: 4:03.54 (5) VS 4:01.51 (3)

WC Daegu 2011-09-01: 1500 m: 4:05.40 (1) VS 4:19.71 (9)

VD Bruxelles 2011-09-16: 1500 m: 4:03.68 (12) VS 4:00.06 (1)

Fifth Avenue New York NY 2011-09-24: Mile, road: 4:22.3h (1) VS 4:26.2h (6)

OT Eugene OR 2012-07-01: 1500 m: 4:05.17 (3) VS 4:04.59 (1)

Aviva London 2012-07-13: 1500 m: 4:07.76 (2) VS 4:08.22 (5)

OG London 2012-08-06: 1500 m: did not reach final (0) tie! VS DNF (0)

DrakeR Des Moines IA 2013-04-26: 1500 m: 4:03.35 (1) VS 4:17.71 (9)

Fifth Avenue New York NY 2013-09-22: Mile, road: 4:20 (1) VS 4:24 (2)

Diamond Shanghai 2014-05-18: 1500 m: 4:00.42 (2) VS 4:10.93 (10)

adidas New York NY 2014-06-14: 1500 m: 4:02.54 (3) VS 4:04.87 (7)

NC Sacramento CA 2014-06-29: 1500 m: 4:04.96 (1) VS 4:24.01 (12)

Areva Saint-Denis 2014-07-05: 1500 m: 3:57.22 (2) VS 4:04.76 (12)

New York NY 2014-09-13: Mile, road: 4:20 (1) VS 4:22 (6)

NC Eugene OR 2015-06-28: 1500 m: 4:14.86 (1) VS did not reach final (0)

NC Eugene OR 2016-07-10: 1500 m: 4:04.74 (1) VS 4:06.94 (5)

New York NY 2016-09-03: Mile, road: 4:18:30.0h (1) VS 4:24:60.0h (10)

Jenny "MF" Simpson total wins: 15

Morgan "DEVASTATED" Uceny total wins: 6

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Peonies wrote:

Nope...she is not the greatest. She irritates the hell out of me...not sure why.

Because she's the OP and is full of herself.

Yessiry wrote:

Not really fair that the actual women in the event have to compete against a horse though.

TrackBot

Head-to-head record between Genzebe Dibaba (left) and Jenny Simpson (right)

Trackbot! Compare Genzebe Dibaba vs. Jenny Simpson

Head-to-head record between Genzebe Dibaba (left) and Jenny Simpson (right):

VD Bruxelles 2011-09-16: 1500 m: 4:06.28 (14) VS 4:03.68 (12)

OG London 2012-08-06: 1500 m: did not reach final (0) tie! VS did not reach final (0)

GGala Roma 2013-06-06: 1500 m: 4:01.62 (2) VS 4:02.30 (3)

WC Moskva 2013-08-15: 1500 m: 4:05.99 (7) VS 4:02.99 (2)

WK Zürich 2013-08-29: 5000 m: DNF (0) VS 14:56.26 (7)

DNG Stockholm 2014-08-21: 1500 m: 4:01.00 (2) VS 4:00.38 (1)

VD Bruxelles 2014-09-05: 3000 m: 8:29.41 (3) VS 8:29.58 (4)

Herc Monaco 2015-07-17: 1500 m: 3:50.07 (1) VS 3:57.30 (4)

WC Beijing 2015-08-25: 1500 m: 4:08.09 (1) VS 4:16.28 (11)

WK Zürich 2015-09-03: 3000 m: 8:26.54 (2) VS 8:34.43 (4)

OG Río de Janeiro 2016-08-16: 1500 m: 4:10.27 (2) VS 4:10.53 (3)

Genzebe "MF" Dibaba total wins: 6

Jenny "DEVASTATED" Simpson total wins: 4

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A lot different than i would have thought

Yeah, much closer than expected.

4:06 wrote:

Peonies wrote:

Nope...she is not the greatest. She irritates the hell out of me...not sure why.

Because she's the OP and is full of herself.

Kind of has a right to be having been world champ, DL champ, and typically crushing the American fields she faces.

Her PR of 3:57 is not even close to what it takes to make the meet for the men's 1500m in 3:39. So I would say she's probably not the best 1500m American ever. She's also like 25+ seconds slower than the top male Americans

Title 9er wrote:

Her PR of 3:57 is not even close to what it takes to make the meet for the men's 1500m in 3:39. So I would say she's probably not the best 1500m American ever. She's also like 25+ seconds slower than the top male Americans

Yawn. This line of reasoning is lame and you should feel sad.

It's close considering Dibaba is a world record holder. But it's really 6-3 cuz the bot has Simpson winning over Dibaba in a Zurich 5k that she was pacing for her sister.

TrackBot wrote:

Head-to-head record between Jenny Simpson (left) and Shannon Rowbury (right):

WC Daegu 2011-09-01: 1500 m: 4:05.40 (1) VS did not reach final (0)

Jenny "MF" Simpson total wins: 29

Shannon "DEVASTATED" Rowbury total wins: 16

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This can't count can it? They didn’t race each other.

These two must really hate each other. It is beginning to look like a tennis rivalry like Federer vs Djokovic etc.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

And don't say anything about PEDs, she did that at 37

Yes! The evidence is clear: she doped only once, and that not on purpose: thus she isn't a cheater at all.

Trackbot! Compare Laura Muir vs. Jenny Simpson

Head-to-head record between Laura Muir (left) and Jenny Simpson (right):

Areva Saint-Denis 2014-07-05: 1500 m: 4:00.07 (6) VS 3:57.22 (2)

DNG Stockholm 2014-08-21: 1500 m: 4:04.71 (6) VS 4:00.38 (1)

GGala Roma 2015-06-04: 1500 m: 4:00.61 (4) VS 3:59.31 (1)

Herc Monaco 2015-07-17: 1500 m: 3:58.66 (5) VS 3:57.30 (4)

WC Beijing 2015-08-25: 1500 m: 4:11.48 (5) VS 4:16.28 (11)

OG Río de Janeiro 2016-08-16: 1500 m: 4:12.88 (7) VS 4:10.53 (3)

Meet Paris Saint-Denis 2016-08-27: 1500 m: 3:55.22 (1) VS 3:58.19 (6)

WK Zürich 2016-09-01: 1500 m: 3:57.85 (2) VS 3:58.54 (4)

New York NY 2016-09-03: Mile, road: 4:18:40.0h (2) VS 4:18:30.0h (1)

Pre Eugene OR 2017-05-27: 1500 m: 4:00.47 (3) VS 4:04.16 (8)

Laura "DEVASTATED" Muir total wins: 4

Jenny "MF" Simpson total wins: 6

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