L'Equipe Publishes list of drugs/vitamins Rowbury & Rupp were on before Rio - French doctor responds, "It's quite astounding as

All what? None of these things are PEDs

lol at the ZMA.....that's Victor Conte stuff....and it does not work

This stuff is nothing.

And the Russkies make good money for trolling this place and whatever else.

Gym Leader Brock wrote:

lol at the ZMA.....that's Victor Conte stuff....and it does not work

Down here we have Berocca (I presume it is sold world wide) which is full of vitamins and magnesium, zinc etc. I tried taking one a day to see if there was any performance benefit from it. I soon learnt not to take it before a run, I then learnt after 10 days it gave my gut cramps during fast runs. However, I have learnt that taking it once in a while, it can get rid of hip and lower limb pains for about 3-4 days. So ZMA might give benefits to those lacking ZMA.

Hooray for usada wrote:

Another break in USADAs firewall.

??? USADA doesn't do what you think it does.

Hooray for usada wrote:

Go ahead and panic athletes, we'll know what's inside every one of your medicine cabinets soon. Doping or no doping, thanks to USADA being completely inept, we get to invade your privacy one by one.

A clean athlete would have no problem with that. The IOC and sports federations are the ones that fear any kind of transparency in anti-doping matters.

With all this, and yet they ban meldonium because Russians use it?

All what? None of these things are PEDs

Neither was meldonium, until it was convenient to call it such. Just like the Chinese swimmer 孫楊 with trimetazidine, conveniently removed after the year. But the Wiggins drugs, they are PEDs, but it's called a "TUE" so is OK to Westerners.

found wrote:

According to the article, Rupp has declared:

- 2 tablets of Citracal

- 1 tablet from Grastek

- 4 Iron tablets

- 1 tablet of vitamin C 1

- 1 tablet of vitamin D 2

- 2 tablets of vitamin E 2

- 1 zinc tablet

- 3 tablets of ZMA

- 1 puff of Advair®

- 1 tablet of Allegra®

- 2 puffs of Combivent®

- 1 tablet of Singulair®

- 2 tablets of Tylenol®

- 1 tablet of Cytomel®

- 1 tablet of Synthroid®

Synthroid (T4)

and

Cytomel (T3)

ZMA (zinc and magnesium aspartate mineral supplement from Victor Conte of BALCO!)

(I have a bad reputation for exposing fakes, cheaters, and liars.)

It is not a good idea to get on my list.

Here are some people on my list:

Alberto Salazar, Phil Knight, Dr. Martial Saugy, Papa Massata Diack, Lamine Diack, Gabriel Dolle, Nick Davies, Lord Sebastian Coe, Paula Radcliffe, Federico Rosa, Claudio Berardelli, Jos Hermens, Yannis Pitsiladis, Sir Craig Reedie, Thomas Bach, IAAF, WADA, IOC, Dr. Conconi, Dr. Ferrari, Dr. Fuentes, Dr. Mark Bonar, Dr. Jeffrey Brown, Jama Aden, Mary Decker Slaney, Richard Slaney, Victor Conte, Lance Armstrong, Alex Schwazer, Dieter Baumann, Regina Jacobs, Liliya Shobukhova, Russian Athletics federation, Kenyan Athletics Federation, Ethiopian Athletics federation, UKAD, Nicole Sapstead, Barry Fudge, Mo Farah, Bradley Wiggins, USATF, Dennis Mitchell, Stephanie Hightower, rojo, wejo...

Alberto Salazar was doing urine testing with Victor Conte…who went to jail for the BALCO scandal which involved THG (tetrahydrogestrinone):

"I was running poorly and he contacts me (through a coach) and says, 'We got this new tech of measuring your trace elements' and all this. So I sent him some urine," Salazar says. "That was the only time I did anything with them, other than buying some ZMA, but then everybody started making this stuff. They said people who were LOW ON TESTOSTERONE, it could help them. A lot of athletes took that. It's legal and there's nothing wrong with it."

Oh boy Alberto!!!

R u serious? wrote:

Yakov from Yakutsk wrote:

With all this, and yet they ban meldonium because Russians use it?

Do people actually think this stuff is bad? Taken over the course of a week?

I don't even remotely believe that a pro athlete takes just 1 capsule each of vitamins D, B, C and calcium over the course of a week. It seems more like they're listing a bunch of things and then saying "1" for nearly all of them, including the three different types of iron.

Bad Wigins wrote:

R u serious? wrote:

Do people actually think this stuff is bad? Taken over the course of a week?

I don't even remotely believe that a pro athlete takes just 1 capsule each of vitamins D, B, C and calcium over the course of a week. It seems more like they're listing a bunch of things and then saying "1" for nearly all of them, including the three different types of iron.

If she took this stuff every day it's still nothing. Some vitamins, minerals, energy drink and protein? This is the most useless shit leak I've ever seen. It's like trying to create a scandal over someone's shopping list.

Actually so laughable that the losers on this site get their knickers in a twist over an athlete taking iron supplements, over the counter hayfever tablet, and some topical antibiotic for acne.

Interesting lists. Rowbury's list just seems like a lot nutritional supplements . If you read a book about micronutrients or cellular nutrition or stuff like that, her list is not all that surprising.

Why Rupp needs a half dozen prescription meds has always been the bigger question.

vivalarepublica wrote:

Interesting lists. Rowbury's list just seems like a lot nutritional supplements . If you read a book about micronutrients or cellular nutrition or stuff like that, her list is not all that surprising.

Why Rupp needs a half dozen prescription meds has always been the bigger question.

Should Rupp even be competing if he's that sick?

Les wrote:

Why does a grown woman need a powerful acne med?

Because testosterone boosting with Bictor Conte's ZMA and other illegal grey area T-boosting causes acne. Same as Rupp and Centro.

One thing that is clear is that Salazar has told bald-faced lies about what his athletes use. "Iron and vitamin D, that's all you need" - ha.

As a doctor, I feel a bit bad for them since these choices really don't show a good handle on pharmacology. Whether for cheating or because Rupp happens to have intractable asthma AND hypothyroidism, the cocktail could certainly be streamlined.

We have published a story on the latest Fancy Bears leak involving Galen Rupp and Shannon Rowbury:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/03/fancy-bears-releases-vitamins-medications-galen-rupp-shannon-rowbury-rio/

Interesting to see the drugs that Rowberry and Rupp declared:

LRC Editor's note: We have published a story on the latest Fancy Bears leak involving Galen Rupp and Shannon Rowbury:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/03/fancy-bears-releases-vitamins-medications-galen-rupp-shannon-rowbury-rio/

Here is a translated version of the initial L'Equipe story.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lequipe.fr%2FAthletisme%2FArticle%2FLa-derive-medicamenteuse-des-athletes-de-salazar%2F782249

Running is a disease. Ergo, runners need medications.

I feel like the biggest harm Al Sal and crew have done on themselves is just not being fully transparent. They should be ahead of this. Release it all themselves. Explain why they do it. Talk about the ethical dilemmas and arguments they make and why they chose to do what they do.

I mean I get it. They do this for a living at the absolute highest level. Their salaries, livelihoods, and legacies are fully cemented in how they compete on the track. It's their duty to themselves to do everything they can within the rules to be the fastest they possibly can. That means taking advantage of scientifically proven, legal supplements. It means pushing the limit of what's ethical so long as it's legal.

It is entirely defensible and understandable so long as they are transparent and open. By having it come out in leaks, by denying wrongdoing rather than explaining actual doing, they look guilty of any crime we the people could accuse them of.

Thinkaboutit wrote:

I feel like the biggest harm Al Sal and crew have done on themselves is just not being fully transparent. They should be ahead of this. Release it all themselves. Explain why they do it. Talk about the ethical dilemmas and arguments they make and why they chose to do what they do.

Why broadcast their secrets to the competition? Should they share their training plan too? Their lifting plans? Recovery techniques?

Sacred Heart Prep wrote:

Shannon just practices with the NOP team. She doesn't use their coaches, nor any Nike coach. Pablo her husband and Andy her high school coach is all she uses.

NOP is all about THE MEDICAL, not about the coaching. How can YOU compete with their operating budget.