athlete tracker wrote:
Not a workout. Race effort, and a bad decision to do so.
Obviously more than workout effort & hence the italics and the shock I expressed. So what gives? Will love to hear rational behind this. And are we 4 weeks out or 3? Maybe his splits will shed a little light but any way you look at it, it seems a bit out there.
athlete tracker wrote:
Not a workout. Race effort, and a bad decision to do so.
Perhaps. But who could resist that PB calling you...
somebloke wrote:
Luke nailed it. A PB, I believe.
This course is fast but it also has a decent hill at mile ~12. Maybe worth a few extra seconds. Can someone chime in?
In Houston? I don't know of any decent hills within a 20 mile radius of Houston. Maybe coming from the Pac NW, my view is skewed a bit.
kmaclam wrote:
athlete tracker wrote:Not a workout. Race effort, and a bad decision to do so.
Obviously more than workout effort & hence the italics and the shock I expressed. So what gives? Will love to hear rational behind this. And are we 4 weeks out or 3? Maybe his splits will shed a little light but any way you look at it, it seems a bit out there.
I have no clue if he would have been better off doing a 13 mile MP race paced workout but a HM 4 weeks out from a marathon isn't going to kill you. Any one else remember an american runner who ran a a 10k pr a couple of days before going out and winning an olympic marathon?
asdfasdasdafsd wrote:
kmaclam wrote:Obviously more than workout effort & hence the italics and the shock I expressed. So what gives? Will love to hear rational behind this. And are we 4 weeks out or 3? Maybe his splits will shed a little light but any way you look at it, it seems a bit out there.
I have no clue if he would have been better off doing a 13 mile MP race paced workout but a HM 4 weeks out from a marathon isn't going to kill you. Any one else remember an american runner who ran a a 10k pr a couple of days before going out and winning an olympic marathon?
You definitely have a point.
Especially with the new attitude Luke seems to have toward training/racing. Maybe his lower volume/more laid back attitude and focusing on enjoying it makes it worthwhile to run hard today. In a sense it could be taking pressure off the trials, which could end up benefitting him.
Personally, I have run 1 half and it took a while to recover. But I'm not Luke Puskedra. This is probably not something he would have done under Alberto, but that attitude didn't work for him.
I hope he runs well at the trials
Half-Marathon results.
Place Division Name Age Finish Net
1 » Desisa, Lelisa (ETH) 26 1:00:37
2 » Geremew, Mosinet (ETH) 23 1:00:45
3 » Gebreyohannes Gezahai, Samsom (ERI) 23 1:01:28
4 » Puskedra, Luke (USA) 25 1:01:29
5 » Delesa, Terefa (ETH) 17 1:01:55
6 » Spisak, Jim (USA) 25 1:02:26
7 » Biwott, Shadrack (USA) 30 1:02:30
8 » Oyugi, Nelson (KEN) 23 1:02:40
9 » Ssenyange, Ismail (UGA) 29 1:02:45
10 » Rono, Aron (USA) 33 1:02:53
11 » Alex, George (USA) 25 1:02:54
12 » Smyth, Patrick (USA) 29 1:03:00
13 » Keveren, Sean (USA) 25 1:03:25
14 » Estrada, Diego (USA) 26 1:03:28
15 » Simbassa, Abbabiya (USA) 22 1:03:28
16 » Reid, Phillip (USA) 30 1:03:32
17 » Gelchu, Abdi (BRU) 18 1:03:42
18 » Payne, Ben (USA) 34 1:03:50
19 » Graves, Griff (USA) 25 1:03:54
20 » Williams, Matthew (USA) 28 1:03:57
21 » Watson, Robin (CAN) 32 1:03:58
22 » Hrezi, Mo (USA) 24 1:04:00
23 » Anderson, Tom (USA) 26 1:04:03
24 » Lord, Brandon (USA) 23 1:04:03
25 » Piedra, Byron (ECU) 33 1:04:07
Please sponsor Jim Spisak....
Diego Estrada? Wtf?
Now that's what I call a hard 'workout'!!
4 weeks out from the trials and he's blasting the half in Houston.
Editor's note> Here are the half-marathon results.
Place Division Name Age Finish Net
1 » Desisa, Lelisa (ETH) 26 1:00:37
2 » Geremew, Mosinet (ETH) 23 1:00:45
3 » Gebreyohannes Gezahai, Samsom (ERI) 23 1:01:28
4 » Puskedra, Luke (USA) 25 1:01:29
5 » Delesa, Terefa (ETH) 17 1:01:55
6 » Spisak, Jim (USA) 25 1:02:26
7 » Biwott, Shadrack (USA) 30 1:02:30
8 » Oyugi, Nelson (KEN) 23 1:02:40
9 » Ssenyange, Ismail (UGA) 29 1:02:45
10 » Rono, Aron (USA) 33 1:02:53
11 » Alex, George (USA) 25 1:02:54
12 » Smyth, Patrick (USA) 29 1:03:00
13 » Keveren, Sean (USA) 25 1:03:25
14 » Estrada, Diego (USA) 26 1:03:28
15 » Simbassa, Abbabiya (USA) 22 1:03:28
16 » Reid, Phillip (USA) 30 1:03:32
17 » Gelchu, Abdi (BRU) 18 1:03:42
18 » Payne, Ben (USA) 34 1:03:50
19 » Graves, Griff (USA) 25 1:03:54
20 » Williams, Matthew (USA) 28 1:03:57
21 » Watson, Robin (CAN) 32 1:03:58
22 » Hrezi, Mo (USA) 24 1:04:00
23 » Anderson, Tom (USA) 26 1:04:03
24 » Lord, Brandon (USA) 23 1:04:03
25 » Piedra, Byron (ECU) 33 1:04:07
Personally, I ran a 1/2 hard yesterday & I feel like crap today. And I'm not in the peak of a marathon trials buildup! I plan to not go hard for at least a week. 4 weeks out from the Olympic Trials would be primo workout time where you have about 10 more days to do those last 3 hard ones (24 miler?, 4 X 2 @ HMP?, 15 @ MP?…) before your taper. Now Luke has to 'recover' from this race for about a week which puts him at 3 weeks out, where he tapers? All of this is conjecture but it looks from here that he's doing an all out 1/2 4 weeks out & then a 1 month taper.
Maybe he's in 59:30 shape.
Whatthewhatth wrote:
Diego Estrada? Wtf?
Marathon pace workout, or so he hopes.
Whatthewhatth wrote:
Diego Estrada? Wtf?
What's wrong with that? Running 63:28 deep in marathon training might not be bad. If I was in a marathon cycle, I'd try to run an 18 miler at this point in my training at marathon pace. I remember one time thinking about doing a half and trying to see if I could turn around and run an extra 5 miles.
On a somewhat related note, I've combined two threads into one here.
One guy started the thread with the title, "WTF is Puskedra doing?"
So basically some fans are upset that Puskedra is running too fast whereas others are upset that Estrada is running too slow. It just shows you can't please the fans.
NICE!!! Mixing it up with the African boys!!! Love to see that... Luke P is the man!!
Ritz ran sub 1:01 in Philly three weeks before he PR in Chicago so Luke should be fine
who cares. He's just another Oregon drug cheat.
next please
rojo wrote:
So basically some fans are upset that Puskedra is running too fast whereas others are upset that Estrada is running too slow. It just shows you can't please the fans.
My thoughts exactly.
somebloke wrote:
This course is fast but it also has a decent hill at mile ~12. Maybe worth a few extra seconds. Can someone chime in?
OMG, a 'hill'- sounds like it's not Rupp Certified.
Dingler wrote:
kmaclam wrote:yeah, what could be the plan here? Drop after 7 or 8 miles? Back off immediately? And what happened to Estrada?
Estrada did the smart thing and dropped off once he realized the pace was too hot. He's on 1:03 flat pace right now. Calling it right now, Estrada will beat Puskedra in the Trials.
I bet you $100 over Paypal he won't. We can let Wejo hold the money.