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Would that include the US too?That would be a huge disincentive for national federations to "come clean" -- we would go back to the 80's, where the federations would warn the athletes.
enforcer of postive change wrote:
dopercyclist wrote:
Ban her for life! That name (and name of any doper) shouldn't be allowed on any race starting line/result ever. What a joke.
I would go further and ban nations who are turning out large numbers of PED positives such as Kenya or Russia.
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Soprano wrote:
not my real name. wrote:
most doping sanctions have language stating that the athlete is "disqualified from all results obtained after xx/xx/xx, with forfeiture of all prizes and medals."
Thus, if she has yet to "forfeit," or pay back, those prizes that she won during the time of forfeiture, then she should NOT be eligible to compete again. I think this aspect of sanctions is often overlooked and/or not enforced, and it would be a great way to force dopers to reimburse what they've taken while doping before being eligible for money again.
I agree with this. It would be a great way to start moving towards lifetime bans as some pros would rather stop competing than pay back all their stolen prize money.
I'm all for lifetime bans, but this doesn't sound bad either: "Serve your time and pay back what you stole and you can compete again."
I actually thought this was somewhat enforced, but I guess not since Liliya Shobukhova is apparently eligible for the Olympics, but hasn't paid back her million+ dollars in prize money to the WMM.
It's a win-win for non-dopers. Many dopers will stay out of the sport permanently because they won't want to pay back money, and if they do pay back money, at least the non-dopers get their appropriate prize money back.
How about Americans who completely ignore their ban and collect prize $$$$ DURING their ban. You know, you know who I mean.
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i think you mean "american(s)" who run for puerto rico...yeah, that was ridiculous.
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Looks like she is trying to scoop up another masters title. She got $10k for top master at Boston. I do not think the money is quite as good at Chicago, but she will probably have a shot at top master.
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These race officials are spineless if they can't keep people like this out. Who are they going to offend by preventing her entry? Oh, man, I bet all the dopers out there will be outraged by how they've been treated! Can't risk offending them! This decision by these officials only serves to protect a proven doper.
You don't take EPO on accident. Lifetime ban should apply.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/2815214/Liza-Hunter-Galvan-decried-by-team-mates
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Asker of questions wrote:
She's American now? Scammed the people of San Antonio into helping her get on the NZ Olympic team, stole US money in road races and now wants to be "developed"? Some people have no shame.
How can you be in a " development " program if you are 47 or whatever she is now?
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Is she wearing bun huggers?
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Is Kastor eligible for Masters money? She is running Chicago last I heard. Can't imagine Lisa beating her if Kastor is eligible.
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Clerk wrote:
Here is the email I received after asking:
Hello, thank you for reaching out. I’m responding on behalf of the Bank of America Chicago Marathon.
We appreciate you bringing our attention to this matter.
Our anti-doping policy is in effect for athletes who are invited by event organizers to participate in our elite program. It was unclear on our web site, and we’ve since updated our language to avoid any confusion.
Liza Hunter-Galvan signed up through our open field and had a qualifying time that made her eligible as being listed as part of our American Development Program.
Thank you again for reaching out,
Cindy Hamilton
ADP athletes are eligible for open prize money.
It's all fair and OKAY by the rules, but that doesn't mean is fair and okay. While some would complain about a tighter standard being held by some over others, it is often the only way to make progress on an issue. WMM taking a stand on all sanctioned athletes, invited or not, would be a step towards life-time bans, (which I think are needed).
Good work my friend.
Spurred on by your email (Chicago was unaware of her entry until your email as she'd entered herself) The race director himself, Carey Pinksowki, has reached out to the the ex doper to telll her she won't be getting any prize money as explained here:
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/10/what-we-learned-in-chicago-on-thursday-chicago-cares-deeply-about-what-letsrun-visitors-think-a-superstar-pulls-out-joan-benoits-30th-anniversary-run-may-not-happen-and-the-secret-to-running-a-m/00 -
F&CK YEAH!!! GREAT WORK LETSRUN!!
shell trash her legs for NOTHING and we all know shes doing it for the payday lol.....
Good lord for all the crap that comes on here THIS is why I don't leave, AWESOME!!!!
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Righteous work by Clerk! You should put up your contact so that whoever ends up winning can forward you a piece of the paycheck.
LRC may be sordid in a number of ways, but in the area of outing cheats, we are a bulwark for the cause of justice!
Still think she should have to wear the "D", though....
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Asker of questions wrote:
She's American now? Scammed the people of San Antonio into helping her get on the NZ Olympic team, stole US money in road races and now wants to be "developed"? Some people have no shame.
If she were American born then we would have gotten her out of a suspension and given her a lucrative coaching job and hailed her as a hero!
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rekrunner wrote:
Would that include the US too?
That would be a huge disincentive for national federations to "come clean" -- we would go back to the 80's, where the federations would warn the athletes.
There is now an independent testing body for all nations (WADA) so the national federations should have much less say in this sort of thing, unlike the 80's. As far as I know, the US has thrown out far fewer positive tests among their distance runners over the last 10 years than either Kenya or Russia.
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Precious Roy wrote:
Looks like she is trying to scoop up another masters title. She got $10k for top master at Boston. I do not think the money is quite as good at Chicago, but she will probably have a shot at top master.
Ten thousand dollars for a 2h 45 min marathon? How many people ran way faster than that and never received a dime for their efforts? Affirmative Action is practiced at its most extreme in road races. What a joke, running is supposed to a pure sport where you are awarded based on your performance only.
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A quick Google search mentions she never acted as if she were suspended showing up and jogging local races. Looks like she did get a coaching gig with a summer camp at Texas A&M Corpus Christi. Looks like she is being held up as a hero.
areusure? wrote:
Asker of questions wrote:
She's American now? Scammed the people of San Antonio into helping her get on the NZ Olympic team, stole US money in road races and now wants to be "developed"? Some people have no shame.
If she were American born then we would have gotten her out of a suspension and given her a lucrative coaching job and hailed her as a hero!
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rojo wrote:
Good work my friend.
Spurred on by your email (Chicago was unaware of her entry until your email as she'd entered herself) The race director himself, Carey Pinksowki, has reached out to the the ex doper to telll her she won't be getting any prize money
Bravo, The Brojos!
The best exemplification of our powers is publicly beating up this small defenseless woman, and then bragging about it repeatedly on your website.
You deserve the Bullies United Medal of Honor!
Indeed, this is a major victory for Bullies Everywhere!
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Defenseless women? WTF are you smoking? She's a thief and a cheat. She needs to go get a job. I bet she doesn't run and stays in the Lone Star state running every $ race she physically get to.
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The Dictator Bullies wrote:
rojo wrote:
Good work my friend.
Spurred on by your email (Chicago was unaware of her entry until your email as she'd entered herself) The race director himself, Carey Pinksowki, has reached out to the the ex doper to telll her she won't be getting any prize money
Bravo, The Brojos!
The best exemplification of our powers is publicly beating up this small defenseless woman, and then bragging about it repeatedly on your website.
You deserve the Bullies United Medal of Honor!
Indeed, this is a major victory for Bullies Everywhere!
Hi Lisa!
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soveriegn citizen wrote:
The Dictator Bullies wrote:
Bravo, The Brojos!
The best exemplification of our powers is publicly beating up this small defenseless woman, and then bragging about it repeatedly on your website.
You deserve the Bullies United Medal of Honor!
Indeed, this is a major victory for Bullies Everywhere!
Hi Lisa!
Here's a friend of yours:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxeJs_xlEOU00
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