Chggvhvgh wrote:
He's about 1 minute slow on the run (1:45 from the top guys)...
Don't be a daft prick... nobody is finishing a tri in 14:09.
Chggvhvgh wrote:
He's about 1 minute slow on the run (1:45 from the top guys)...
Don't be a daft prick... nobody is finishing a tri in 14:09.
Chggvhvgh wrote:
Can't really make any sense of the bike result.. But it's either Hall is a good biker (kind of like Mike Wood became) or Webb is slower than a runner that just took up biking...
Webb IS a runner who just took up biking you dweeb
jogger to be wrote:
The swim is slow. The bike is on the slow side for a professional triathlete. For this time of the season, the bike is good for a top age grouper.
Pro triathletes will hold that 24mph (or faster) for 56miles. New Orleans 70.3 was today and the top 25 guys all averaged 25mph or faster for 56 miles. And their swims were much faster for 1.2mi vs Alan's 750m swim.
Alan is just starting out so he has a lot of room to improve. And he better cause even though he won, he is just a decent age group athlete right now.
Best bike split at New Orleans was 27.2mph (Trevor Wurtele)
I know than Brownlee finished off the world chp sprint triathlon in 14:24 in 2011. Not 14:09, however, I believe that Brownlee is now faster than he was 3 years ago and I'm not convinced that he didn't have more in him that day...
You can\'t really look at his bike split because it is a draft legal race. Really you go with the group you get out of the water with. It depends on how hard the group is willing to work.
The fastest ever bike split in an ironman (112 mi bike ride) was just a hair slower than 28 MPH.
Chggvhvgh wrote:
I know than Brownlee finished off the world chp sprint triathlon in 14:24 in 2011. Not 14:09, however, I believe that Brownlee is now faster than he was 3 years ago and I'm not convinced that he didn't have more in him that day...
Drafting or no? Big difference. 14:09 would be a solid fresh road 5K time for Brownlee.
not a dick wrote:
Chggvhvgh wrote:He's about 1 minute slow on the run (1:45 from the top guys)...
Don't be a daft prick... nobody is finishing a tri in 14:09.
Mario Mola (Spain) closed an itu sprint tri with a 13:55 a few weeks back
Hopefully this was just an 80% training session for him. His competition was nothing more than local hobby amateurs, so he probably wasn't pushing; though not sure it's a good sign that he was even in this race as the quality was about the same as a turkey trot.
Quintus Cassadamius wrote:
not a dick wrote:Don't be a daft prick... nobody is finishing a tri in 14:09.
Mario Mola (Spain) closed an itu sprint tri with a 13:55 a few weeks back
Yeah, a 4K.
Seems like webb needs some tips from Lance armstrong
HardLoper wrote:
Quintus Cassadamius wrote:Mario Mola (Spain) closed an itu sprint tri with a 13:55 a few weeks back
Yeah, a 4K.
I think it's time for runners to accept that triathletes actually are good athletes.
Seriously-what do you have to gain from bashing them all the time?
jogger to be wrote:
The swim is slow. The bike is on the slow side for a professional triathlete. For this time of the season, the bike is good for a top age grouper.
Pro triathletes will hold that 24mph (or faster) for 56miles. New Orleans 70.3 was today and the top 25 guys all averaged 25mph or faster for 56 miles. And their swims were much faster for 1.2mi vs Alan's 750m swim.
Alan is just starting out so he has a lot of room to improve. And he better cause even though he won, he is just a decent age group athlete right now.
He first out of the water... Ahead of Kanute who is known to be one of the better swimmers
Webb is trying so hard not get a real job. Which is all good...This is America after but no different the the barefooted hippie avoiding work.
Realism wrote:
dude seriously needs to grow some hair
not one to usually judge guys on their looks, but Webb looks hideous bald. like a naked mole rat or something
Not one to usually judge guys on starting an incomplete sentence with the word "dude" before stating that you're not one to judge guys on their looks, but...
Split times in tri's are fairly academic, the things to look at are how good are the guys he beats - who have they beaten and who beats them.
Swim buoys move lengthening / shortening, if it is a river there is flow to deal with up / down stream, if it is the sea there is tide, waves etc. If you miss the swim pack and don't get a draft you swim slower than in the pack.
Bike courses also vary - you need a loop that starts and finishes at transition, unless you have a dead turn round a cone in the highway, then invariably you don't have a precise distance course. The only speed or distance to believe would be the one on his Garmin, if he had one running. Amazingly I think London 2012 Olympic Bike course was 43km, so it could take in a nice scenic loop past some landmarks.
http://triathlete-europe.competitor.com/2012/08/07/london-2012-olympics-top-5-triathlon-splits
Run courses are similar - out and back runs are the only way to get the distance right and then the course is unlikely to be measured with the precision of a certified running course.
Quintus Cassadamius wrote:
not a dick wrote:Don't be a daft prick... nobody is finishing a tri in 14:09.
Mario Mola (Spain) closed an itu sprint tri with a 13:55 a few weeks back
Jason Rexing also ran a 13:55...in TRAINERS.
hgsfgj wrote:
Quintus Cassadamius wrote:Mario Mola (Spain) closed an itu sprint tri with a 13:55 a few weeks back
Jason Rexing also ran a 13:55...in TRAINERS.
A 13:55 is equivalent to roughly a 13:30 on the track. So this Mario guy ran a 13:30-track equivalent AFTER already a very taxing swim and bike ride? Fresh he should be able to do about a 12:50. I don't think so.
Quintus Cassadamius wrote:
I think it's time for runners to accept that triathletes actually are good athletes.
Seriously-what do you have to gain from bashing them all the time?
You're right, I thought his time came up on here a while back and it was only 4k. Apparently not.
Fatty R. Belt Buckle wrote:
A 13:55 is equivalent to roughly a 13:30 on the track.
Thanks Fatty! Now I can adjust my track PRs to be my road 5k PR minus 25 seconds and road 10k PR minus 50 seconds!
What is road to track conversion for 1 mile? My best road mile is 4:10. Can I call myself a sub-4 miler on the track even though my track PR is 4:05?