There are no Oregon HS runners at the University of Oregon

the pompous OSU wrote:

Ohio State football 35 of 98 are out of state

Ohio State Cross Country

1 of 15 out of state and he is a grad student

Maybe that is why Ohio State XC is so average?

I don't understand. What do you get from trolling like this? It wasn't even like a few sentences. You typed paragraphs. Is that really worthwhile to you? Can someone help me understand the thought process of a troll??

What's not to understand? I typed it out for you.

Point 1. I'm an Oregon tax payer and feel its my state's responsibility to provide D1 opportunities for in-state athletes. The top in-state kids get courtesy walk-on roles at UO but have no where else to run in-state.

Point 2. As an Oregon fan I don't find engaging to have the entire team made up of transfers, Canadians, Ivy League refugees and triathletes. Compare this to Wisconsin's roster where at least half the guys are in-state.

Holding Bryce Burgess up as an example of in-state success at UO is not a good example since he left the team with eligibility remaining.

NOT since Galen Rupp??! OMG allllll the way back then! Wow that's forever.

Whinny Coach wrote:

And just what is your point? It was already responded that there are at least 9 men from Oregon on that squad and four women on that squad. University of Portland offers Division I Cross Country. How many Oregon kids on their team? Off the top, I recall some Oregon kids who have been on the team since Rupp graduated. Let's start with a world champion named Ashton Eaton, and how about NCAA champion Elijah Greer. Matt Melancon and Dakotah Keys (Pac 12 champion), certainly travel with the team. There are several other good Oregon kids such as Tim Costin, and a raft of incoming freshmen. Your knowledge of Oregon track is lacking, and if you are a coach, I'd bet that you aren't much of one.

Mr. Ed, I found you! I'm sorry about that drunken evening 50 years ago. Will you ever forgive me?

HAHAHAHAHA

Dear OR HS Coach,

First and foremost, it is NOT the responsibility for the University of Oregon to load up their roster with in-state kids. This may have been the case 40 years ago, but college athletics has evolved, as has the university system as a whole. Your thinking is outdated and does not but encourage mediocrity that you've help build among the State of Oregon when it comes to distance running. You do realize if the state had more kids worthy of running on elite DI teams, the UofO roster would be loaded with Oregon talent.

Further, here are the current Oregon men from the state of Oregon:

Tim Costin

Jackson Darland

Boru Guyota

Matthew Melancon

Travis Neuman

Dan Oekerman

Cole Watson

Brett Willyard

Daniel Winn

That's NINE runners. NJ has three kids on the roster as the second most popular state on it and the three kids are all studs who contribute to a strong, winning program.

Oregon constantly gets destroyed by Washington in the Border Clash. Instead of coming on here and complaining why don't you work hard to improve the state of high school distance running in Oregon? Further, many of the top distance runners in the state DO go on to run at UofO. If you don't like how the roster is set up why don't you email the UofO AD, assistant AD, Vin Lananna and the UofO T&F/XC coaching staff instead of coming on here and complaining? Why don't you email the UofO football program and complain that their roster is dominated by non-Oregon athletes?

Running DI is not a right. If you aren't a great runner, go run D2 or D3. Petition Oregon State to start a men's program again. Work harder on growing the Portland State program (which Shalane Flanagan and Alan Webb now assistant coach at...recruiting benefit for sure, and Jon Marcus is a great coach). How about you start a website to cover the high school T&F and XC community in Oregon, promoting kids and increasing the competition, thus making these kids more attractive to UofO?

Stop complaining and do something about it. You can sit there and cry all you want, but you're just making excuses and not doing a whole lot to actually improve, better or change the situation.

Thanks for the pep talk Jon!

not tressel wrote:

the pompous OSU wrote:

Ohio State football 35 of 98 are out of state

Ohio State Cross Country

1 of 15 out of state and he is a grad student

Maybe that is why Ohio State XC is so average?

Exactly

It is also why the football team wins most of their games.

I'm sure Ohio State could get one of the top distance coaches in the country if they paid them 4 million dollars a year. Then that coach could recruit the best runners in the nation (or world) to go to Ohio State with the most allowable full ride scholarships (and a few "academic" full rides thrown in) and then Ohio State would be in the mix for national championships every year instead of just trying to make it to nationals.

That's why D1 college athletics are such a farce. MONEY is the major factor in winning championships. The schools that spend the most on a sport have the best chance of winning. Nothing fair about that. Why do you think the BCS or "new playoff" system does everything they can to keep out teams like Boise State and Utah? The big schools want all the money for themselves with no regard to fairness.

So what percentage of the UO football team is from Oregon? And would Oregon fans be fine with UO sucking in order to give more Oregon HS football players a chance to play in-state? I doubt it.

Every school has the same limit on the number of scholarships. There is no farce.

From back in the 70s - Centro (NY), Clary (Alaska), Salazar (MA), Chapa (IN), Hill (VA).

The U of O has a history of going out of state. This is a first world problem. Get over it.

OR HS Coach wrote:The standouts will be given a chance to walk on but not since Galen Rupp and Kenny Klotz has an in-state athlete made the travel squad.

Just curious, OR HS Coach, who was the 2nd man at the national meet for OR last year?

(Hint: he was a redshirt freshman from Sheldon HS)

Why doesn't that count as "making the travel squad?

Amazon denizen wrote:

From back in the 70s - Centro (NY), Clary (Alaska), Salazar (MA), Chapa (IN), Hill (VA).

The U of O has a history of going out of state. This is a first world problem. Get over it.

We had guys from Oregon on the team too. Martin, Nelson, McChesney, etc.

People make too much of where athletes come from. It is an American tradition to "go away to school" and experience a different part of the country.

I only have a problem with 22 year old "freshman." Instead of funding the world's Oly teams, let's fund out own. Now more than ever, that is important.

A Duck wrote:

We had guys from Oregon on the team too. Martin, Nelson, McChesney, etc.

People make too much of where athletes come from. It is an American tradition to "go away to school" and experience a different part of the country.

I only have a problem with 22 year old "freshman." Instead of funding the world's Oly teams, let's fund out own. Now more than ever, that is important.

You weren't on the team you fraud.

Koppenberg wrote:

OR HS Coach wrote:The standouts will be given a chance to walk on but not since Galen Rupp and Kenny Klotz has an in-state athlete made the travel squad.

Just curious, OR HS Coach, who was the 2nd man at the national meet for OR last year?

(Hint: he was a redshirt freshman from Sheldon HS)

Why doesn't that count as "making the travel squad?

So between Melancon in 2012 and Klotz in 2009 that's two Oregon kids to compete at Nationals in 4 years. Have you convinced me that this is an Oregon team? You have not.

For your next gambit convince me that Melancon gets any scholarship money.

OR HS Coach wrote:

We're proud of the UO track team's success but as a state high school coach it's frustrating to see that in-state runners cannot find opportunities to run at our state's flagship school. The standouts will be given a chance to walk on but not since Galen Rupp and Kenny Klotz has an in-state athlete made the travel squad. The girls side is equally dominated by out of state athletes. The last in state athlete to travel was Claire Michel who was took 3-4 years to earn a spot.

Ill still support the team but I'd enjoy their victories more if there was actually an Oregon component to the team.

PS, across all men's events Oregon has 28 Oregon athletes on the team.

What more do you want?

I am sure all the best Oregon athletes get recruited if they are interested in Oregon.

A bigger bitch would be to bitch to the NCAA about allowing more scholarships.

Here is what I don't understand. What is your solution? To artificially hold down the level of the Oregon team with in-state runners when the state of Oregon is not currently producing many high-level D-1 athletes? As I said previously, other than Matthew Melancon who ran for Oregon, there was a grand total of one Oregon high school athlete at the NCAA meet for another team.

There are plenty of Oregon kids on the roster. If they step up, they will be on the travel squad. If Oregon ran local guys they wouldn't be within a mile of even qualifying for the national meet, so why is it a problem that the local kids aren't running at nationals in great numbers?

You're complaining about the number of local runners without offering up the solution. It is make the team a non-NCAA level team with all Oregon guys? In Oregon's first meet tomorrow they are running 4 guys from Oregon (Melancon, Watson, Winn, and Costin). They all have a chance to show what they can do and make the travel squad. Isn't that all you can ask for, or should they all be guaranteed to make the Pac-12, Regional, etc. lineup because they are from Oregon?

You mention Wisconsin as a better example. Here is who they ran on their 2nd place NCAA team last year in order of finish Ontario Canada, Texas, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. Oregon's one in-state guy beat Wisconsin's in-state guy by 115 places, so you could say Oregon did better in the in-state department.

You guys are being trolled so easily. Why are you responding to this guy??? If you read his posts, he's definitely not being subtle about it either.

First of all, shut it assduck. Second, all scholarships at oregon should go to in-state kids, not 25 year old africans living in new jersey. Or better yet, all oregon sports should get the death penalty for rampant cheating.