Beat Mo the way Gebrselassie got beat in 93

Ok, who is going to do it?Lapping is a bit much.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Run 4 seconds off the WR in any championship and you will lap Mo Farah. Almost.

In the 10000 you almost certainly would lap him.

Canova>God wrote:Haile made a mistake that day and could have won the race if he had not underestimated his opponent. I don't Mo would have done that. He was mentally prepared for this situation to happen and even expected it. He was not going to let someone go like that.

Mo let the two Kenyans get 30m ahead of him. That was a severe tactical mistake. He couldn't know that they wouldn't keep pushing he was just lucky they were too stupid or cowardly to do it.

someone had to do it wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

Run 4 seconds off the WR in any championship and you will lap Mo Farah. Almost.

In the 10000 you almost certainly would lap him.

idiot, we've been through this

no

You are the idiot and one of the dumbest Farah's fan here. You never provide any argument, you just keep repeating "Farah is good", "Farah is improving". I bet you dance Mobot whenever Farah wins.

Canova>God wrote:

What Kirui did was genius he was not going to outkick Haile or even beat him in a time trial but he knew that with a little luck and the element of surprise that he had a chance. No one expects someone to go out at WR pace in championship races and if it does happen it is usually assumed that it is not sustainable. Haile made a mistake that day and could have won the race if he had not underestimated his opponent.

Kirui definitely was not thinking about Gebrselassie at all - it was the first global track race for Gebrselassie at all. Kirui showed a lot of courage in this race - but probably has had more Khalid Skah in his mind than Haile Gebrselassie.

exactly, Skah was a champion, Geb had raced Kirui the year before as juniors. Geb learned his lesson and wouldn't let Tergat get away from him a few years later. Perhaps Koech or some other runner (the late Sammy W)could push Farah.

Because in 93 Mo was only 10 and Geb was 42.

J.R. wrote:

CPJ wrote:

How about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3csSVopAb0

Bekele Olympic 5000m '08, that's one of my favorite races.

53.87 last lap after running about a 4:02 mile, unbelievable

Bad Wigins wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

Run 4 seconds off the WR in any championship and you will lap Mo Farah. Almost.

In the 10000 you almost certainly would lap him.

Ventolin 4 wrote:

idiot, we've been through this

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Moscow bell split was 12:32. Yes, I think 12:41 would be pretty damn close to lapping that. And I expect 26:20 would have lapped 26:27.

Have you ever noticed how rude you are? You are nothing but piss and venom.

Idiot. You honestly think Mo would not go with the leaders...? That is one of the least thought out points I've seen in a while

Geb coming back form the 10,000 there, and he never even tried that again.

Also, Geb waited too long.

He kept trading places with his teammates and didn't make a final move until 80m to go and made close in the end.

If he went with a lap to go, it look like he would have won.

Amazing!! Looks like 4-5-6-7-8-9's times (not sure on actual places) would have beat Mo this year. That just shows the guts those guys had back then. It has been years since anyone has pushed their body to its limits in a championship race. Which that is what racing is all about. Pre would be disappointed in championship races today. I wish I could hear what he would have to say.

No big name runner will do that again. Some kid who is not well known will end up doing it and showing the big dogs how to actually race. Alberto doesn't train his guys to break world records but to have a fast finish. So I think if somebody pushes the pace Mo would struggle on the last few laps. Now when I say struggle I don't mean splitting 65's but not be able to split those 53's.

But all of that is just my opinion, nobody has really ever seen Mo race to his limit. For me, running is finding your limit. And if Mo can find his, and actually go to it, he could be unbeatable.

Why can't you beat Mo the way Jelian did in '11 WC? Just out-kick him on a sustained drive?

* wrote:

Geb coming back form the 10,000 there, and he never even tried that again.

Gebrselassie was not "coming back from the 10.000". What are you talking?

Nappy Roots wrote:

Sihine, Bekele, Geb, Tergat, El Guerrouji, Komen, and a handful of other top guys from the late 90's to early 2000's would show you how to beat Farah.

all dopers

Pre would be smashed by the likes of Farah. It wouldn't really matter if he took the race on and tried to run the finish out of Farah or any of the aforementioned greats - just not good enough. What's the big deal about a 13:21/27:43 guy anyway? He'd probably be something like a 3:36/13:05/27:10 guy now so he'd look pretty ridiculous mouthing off about people who repeatedly take him down.

Pre's frontrunning attitude came from a LACK of talent, not some incredible attitude equally flat-paced fanboys love.

Nonsense. You can get away with what Kirui did if:

1: You are a lot better than your opponents.

2: Your opponents run like a bunch of idiots and let the gap become too big. That is exactly what happened when Janne Holmen won the European championship marathon. The runners from Spain and Italy didn´t take him seriously at first, and when they realized that he could actually win, they couldn´t agree on who should start the chase.

mako wrote:

You are the idiot and one of the dumbest Farah's fan here. You never provide any argument, you just keep repeating "Farah is good", "Farah is improving". I bet you dance Mobot whenever Farah wins.

imbecile

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said88 wrote:

Gebrselassie was not "coming back from the 10.000". What are you talking?

Gebrselassie won the 10,000 in the '93 WC, his first global championship at the senior level.

That was the '93 5000 WC final where Geb was doubling back or "coming back" from the 10,000.

They ran two rounds of the 10,000 and then two rounds of the 5,000.

Geb won the 10 and just missed catching Kirui, who built up that huge lead, falling short by 0.42 seconds in the end.

None of the 10,000m finals finishers came back to run the 5000 finals except for Gebrselassie.

And he never tried that again in his career.

the Africans used to run as a team. The motto of Kenya was HARAMBEE "let us all pull together." It didn't really matter which Kenyan won as long as a Kenyan won, yet there was a designated leader. Now it's every man for himself and runners are content with the 5th 6th place money. That's why the world champ races were boring and that's why nobody will challenge Farah. It would be nice to see Farah try for a record maybe Rupp would act as his lieutenant.

Canova>God wrote:What Kirui did was genius he was not going to outkick Haile or even beat him in a time trial

i woudn't be so sure about that

sure geb wins a kick in a slow race but in a TT i think both were in about 12'55 - 12'57.5 shape back then ( wr 12'58 of aouita )

i perhaps might even have given a slight edge to kirui in such a race