Why the heck is Jordan Hasay still racing?

fkfi wrote:

dkny64 wrote:

Hmmm - you tell me how these 3 were tempo efforts:

NCAA regionals

US Nationals

Time trial in OR to get the standard

And if her race at Worlds was just a tempo effort, why did she bother to qualify and run?

Hmm tell me what matters more - the name of the race or the time run in the race? Are you suggesting that 13:30 was a huge, taxing effort for the men's 5000 at worlds? Why did those guys bother to qualify and run?

If the guys at worlds had run an evenly paced 13:30, I'd agree that it wasn't much of an effort, but that's not what they did and I'm pretty sure the actual race took quite a bit out of the guys going for the win.

Anyway, back to Ms Hasay. Which of those 10000m's leading up to Worlds was only a tempo effort, and do you think she wasn't making a full effort at Worlds?

Um, ever heard of Jordan Hasay doing a marathon on the track?

you too wrote:

Her season for all intensive purposes,

Did you really just write that?

She is the greatest woman runner of all time! America's sweetheart. America's golden girl. Do not question her motives. She, Muhammad Ali, is the greatest!!!

dkny64 wrote:

If the guys at worlds had run an evenly paced 13:30, I'd agree that it wasn't much of an effort, but that's not what they did and I'm pretty sure the actual race took quite a bit out of the guys going for the win.

Anyway, back to Ms Hasay. Which of those 10000m's leading up to Worlds was only a tempo effort, and do you think she wasn't making a full effort at Worlds?

Why are you sure that the actual race took quite a bit out of the guys going for the win? It was finished in ~13:30. With a 55 final lap. The only hard effort happened in the final 200-300 meters. If the final mile had been sub 4, then maybe I'd be more likely to agree with you, but there was only one lap that was under 60 seconds. There weren't even really any big surges. With a 69 second lap thrown in towards the end, it was definitely not strenuous. That lap negated all of the effects of any previous weak surges.

What kind of effort do you think Hasay was making at worlds and why? She definitely wasn't intending to go for the win. My guess is that she just wanted a solid effort. So maybe I'll give you this one. But it was still way slower than her recently run PR so maybe not.

The only 10k that looked close to all out for her was her A standard attempt. The ones from her college season certainly weren't all out.

it doesn't matter if she ever wins another race. She is Jordan Hasay. She is the whole f'ing show. Her new logo kicks *ss!

http://jordanhasay.com/

Does she have a T-shirt with this logo we can buy? I'd proudly wear it everywhere!

http://jordanhasay.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/jordan-hasay2.png

She is a marketing machine. It isn't surprising she is running. I just hope she doesn't get an injury

ya, why would a 21 year old want to see some of the prettiest places in Europe when she could be like most 21 year olds, working at the dollar store in their hometown, or commuting back and forth to college still...

because she can wrote:

ya, why would a 21 year old want to see some of the prettiest places in Europe when she could be like most 21 year olds, working at the dollar store in their hometown, or commuting back and forth to college still...

ja, she's only 21, she clearly loves running, she finally has a paycheck after so many years of being famous but illiquid, she can travel on someone else's dime - why stop?

Are you serious? I like Jordan but won't wear a shirt with her logo. Creepy. The web page is full of tweets about her being world champion and such. Does anyone honestly believe she is going to be world champion?

Oh, and I hope she doesn't turn into the Goucher of her generation. I was hoping that Goucher and the drama would retire soon. Now we are stuck with her ultra career? I guess most sources won't cover the ultras so she can run off into ultra abyss.

The men's 5000m at Worlds hit 4000m in 11:04.70 [Alamirew] and Mo won in 13:26.98, so Mo's last 1000m was better than 2:22.28. I don't have 400m splits handy, but either the close was faster than 55 or there was more than 1 lap under 60. Whatever the exact splits, I don't think any of those guys found 4k @ tempo + 1k @ 3:33 1500m pace easy.

I'm sure Hasay was giving everything she had at NCAA regionals when she failed to qualify - very slow time but probably a very hard effort.

I don't think Hasay is good enough to have beaten the people she did at US Nationals only making a tempo effort.

We're agreed that she was going hard in her PR race for the standard.

I can believe she wasn't maxed out at Worlds, but if that's true, I also think it's sad and says something about her needing to move to the marathon soon.

I'd wear her T-shirt and I'm a guy. I know an entire cross country team of young ladies who'd like one as well!

Don't think people understand her popularity in the 12-18 year old age range for girl runners.

fkfi wrote:

. . . If the final mile had been sub 4, then maybe I'd be more likely to agree with you, but there was only one lap that was under 60 seconds. . . .

For what it's worth, Farah split 3:57.7 for the last 1600 m which would be about 3:59 for the last mile.

s. jackson wrote:

I'd wear her T-shirt and I'm a guy. I know an entire cross country team of young ladies who'd like one as well!

Don't think people understand her popularity in the 12-18 year old age range for girl runners.

Scary - sounds like she's on her way to being to tween girl runners what Britney Spears once was to tween girls generally.

Guess the logo means the hairstyle isn't changing anytime soon.

"For all intensive purposes

Nonsense, it means nothing. Its what people say when they really mean to say "for all intents and purposes".

1. For all intents and purposes = Correct

2. To all intents and purposes = Correct

3. For all intensive purposes = WRONG! You should have paid attention in English class!"

-The poster should have paid attention in English class?

Mistakes in your rant are the following:

1.) its should be it's with an apostrophe

2.) there should be a comma after the second "say"

3.) your original documentation is classified poorly

4.) suck it, smart guy

I don't get why some people don't want to admit that Jordan Hasay ever runs hard. Look at it this way: she ran the 10,000m six times in the last few months. All of them were between 31:46 and 32:40, except when she fell apart at Regionals (an effort that I would think was more taxing than a tempo run). The 31:46 was a race set up for her and her alone, with pacers and a loyal cheering section. So I'd say that is representative of her current best possible performance.

What if Rupp ran the 10,000 6 times on the track with an absolute best of 26:48 and 5 other times in the 27 to 27:30 range (along with some 5000s, a couple of high level 3000s, etc). Would you say he was probably not worn out because those were mostly just tempo runs?

Why do you think she got last at the race in Stockholm, in a time about 18 seconds slower than she ran in London a few weeks ago?

It's obvious. She's overcooked. There's a reason most people end their seasons after a certain number of carefully planned races - you can't hold a peak forever. She should never have been in the race in Stockholm.

As far as making money and getting to see Europe, I'm sure she can afford to see Europe without having to pay her way by racing. I doubt she made much in appearance fees at the race. I doubt she learned anything. I doubt she made much of an impression on the meet directors. I'm just surprised she was there at all. Salazar usually seems like a very careful planner. Rupp, Farah, Centrowitz, etc don't race nearly as frequently.

Maybe she thinks its fun to run races in Europe during the summertime and get paid for it.

SFbayRunner wrote:

Maybe she thinks its fun to run races in Europe during the summertime and get paid for it.

+1

There's no reason to overcomplicate things.