What has she done recently? wrote:
Has Herzog even raced in the last few years? Iaaf has no results listed past 2010.
Road races in the US - Bix, Falmouth
What has she done recently? wrote:
Has Herzog even raced in the last few years? Iaaf has no results listed past 2010.
Road races in the US - Bix, Falmouth
A DNF or two earlier this year as well.
livelikeaballer wrote:
My main comprehension problem was with the emails, because they weren't offset from the text and weren't in quotation marks, and there didn't seem to be anything indicating who was speaking. Plus, many of the sentences were fragmented or poorly translated.
I think I got a good sense of the bigger picture in general - Herzog ordered drugs online and by phone, received them by mail, used the aid of her boyfriend and ex-boyfriend to obtain and use them, and used them to perform well at certain key meets over several years' time. When she didn't get the drugs in time she performed poorly or dropped out a few times, etc. She also managed to deny accusations of doping, although I wasn't entirely clear on how many times that has come up or how she got out of it. I got the sense that it was at least twice in the past five years? I thought her connection to the Spanish bust was interesting and wish they hadn't destroyed that evidence (seriously, what kind of court orders evidence destroyed?), and am a bit worried at how easy it seemed to be for her to get the drugs.
I was mainly interested in the Farah paragraph because it came out of nowhere and didn't seem to have much context, so I wasn't sure what they were trying to say with it.
The Farah thing was just a way for dopers to justify themselves from what I gathered.
3 times at least where she was with her back against the wall, and dearly hugged by her federation.
- Leaked emails by a classmate himself, wherein she describes the hassles with her EPO injections. Such a drag.
- Involvement in Operacion Galgo. doping program found marked AA50 and a single blood bag to match in custody of Fuentes or his helper. No-one wanted to do a DNA check on it, that would have been too easy. Because this is Spain, Police gather evidence only to have it discarded for whichever rule violation or irrelevance. Phone tap of her asking trainer for EPO, he offered his buddy Fuentes' blood bag juggling services.
- Now 350 leaked (hacked) post-Operacion Galgo emails living in the US. Confirmed by the Mexican dope dealer himself who was kind enough to copy a large email strong to the journalist doing his fact checking, getting identical correspondence to which he already had.
Circumstantial:
- Dated various (always way older) track legends. Tainted or convicted.
- Used Matschiner the doping manager for managing services in the year she dropped 30 seconds off her 5000m having been a child protegy and training like crazy all her life.
- Track Federation would not hear a foul word about her. She disappointed in track, soso indoor, good cross. IMO, cross is dope friendly as no-one gets to see weird lap times or records. Just weak comeptition.
- I don't even know all of it. It goes on. Back, actually.
What has she done recently? wrote:
Has Herzog even raced in the last few years? Iaaf has no results listed past 2010.
She was the girl in the set-up 10K with Jordan Hasay, fell off and dropped out somewhere between 5-8k.
I don't think that was her only race though.
The article also states how she is using testosterone gel that is very good and clears the system in 6 hours. In the bigger picture, this is another way athletes can train harder and recover better, and not be caught by drug tests.
Dang... sounds like somebody has an axe to grind. Apparently, this happened before with her ex. And he admitted to falsifying emails.
Well, whether the emails are real or fake it is pretty scary that anyone can make a fake email address, and write conversations and forward them to a magazine blog. "Hi Tyson, I am interested in that stuff you used, thanks, Bolt".
Thanks for that. It makes a lot more sense now.
From the article, it's not clear what, if anything, is next? No positives, so is she free to keep competing until something more formal happens?
that article might be complete rubbish, so lets not jump to conclusions until we know 4sho WTF happened my n*ggaz!!!!!
This isn't the roll recovery chick is it? That's Nelson
This hot chick was wit that motorcycle dude who died right ..sad maybe that's why the judgement wasn't all there
drugs underground wrote:
Are international athletes living in America (whether permanently or temporarily) ever tested out-of-competition? Lots of them are living/competing/racing over here.
No idea about Adrienne Herzog, but in general if they are fast enough, they are should be in the out of competition testing pool and get regular tests. One case from a few years back, Liza Hunter-Galvin wasn't particularly fast, but she got tested out of competition and got a ban for epo +ve test.
This is great news, because it means that I beat a doper this spring!
sizzletime wrote:
This is great news, because it means that I beat a doper this spring!
What'd she run for times this spring?
Go Afrikanus wrote:
Another Jewess trying to win at any cost. What a surprise!
The last name perhaps, her family...not sure, although she could play Anne Frank's big sister I suppose. It's more about the family than any religion obviously. Her dad has a self-named compression sock brand BTW.
Yeah, she's a looker alright (in 2000 treated for anorexia). And extremely charming a person as I've heard. Lots of people in the sport adore her. All the evidence that surfaces is a witch hunt, even when the Spanish police cannot but report what they stumbled upon.
She had no trouble at all conquering any track legend she fancied.
Yeah, she lost her fiance in the bike crash, tragic. She wanted to dedicate a big win to him, which required more dope. He supported her in that respect, so no biggie.
Axe to grind? That's often posed. Just who and why then? And why train with all these bad coaches, date the bad dopers? If you think the US/UK ones who go to Salazar have poor judgement...imagine going from being managed by Matschiner (wrote the book on blood dope trafficing since) to training with Pascua in Madrid (Fuentes' long time buddy).
oooohhh hoooo hooooo
Twitter post by Steve Magness last night:
steve magness @stevemagness 10h
Dutch runner Adrienne Herzog who trains in Boulder, linked to EPO, testosterone, etc. use via over 350 emails:
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Herzog is now threatening to sue the newspaper and everyone convering the story.
Again.
Over Operacion Galgo reporting, she hired a quasi-lawyer to call people up and at loud volume threaten them with all dear to them. She really has a talent for connecting to the very best of human specimen.
A doping specialit attorney thinks there may actually be a case against here, as the burden of proof in doping cases is less tight than in legal proceedings. The emails, when analysed by IT experts, could proove pretty damning.
Differently something stinks in Colorado, just searching some of the stuff mentioned here bring up an est European article with a lot of detailed and "legal" stuff done by others too...
http://www.prosport.ro/alte-sporturi/atletism/aur-cu-ser-in-coloana-3649409
Did anybody save a copy of the article? It looks like the website is down, maybe on account of the legal threats.
All the eastern European turned American runners are suspect and full of lies. Brad should cut ties with all of them if he knows what's good for his career. Stick with the blue collar American runners he has.