break it up wrote:
Didn't Alan Webb run a 3:59 split in the high school DMR? I have never seen a high schooler do it in an actual 1600.
That he did. Penn Relays junior year (2000) if I'm not mistaken.
break it up wrote:
Didn't Alan Webb run a 3:59 split in the high school DMR? I have never seen a high schooler do it in an actual 1600.
That he did. Penn Relays junior year (2000) if I'm not mistaken.
Cant wrote:
They didnt have official 1600/3200 splits but they are longer distances, and they were run faster. 3:58y is clearly better than 4:00.29 for 1600 so why isnt 3:58 at least the federation record?
Because these are the people who are responsible for educating our children. No wonder the average high school graduate cannot read, write or compute at the 6th grade level.
We should start a "Bring back the 1600" campaign.
>>They didnt have official 1600/3200 splits but they are longer distances, and they were run faster. 3:58y is clearly better than 4:00.29 for 1600 so why isnt 3:58 at least the federation record?
Relay splits don't count, because the running start gives you a little time.
rob finnerty officially split 359 and change at the midwest distance gala in 2008. Ran 401 for the full mile, but they had a camera at the 1600 line for official splits.
This thread for real?
http://www.nfhs.org/recordbook/Records.aspx?CategoryId=1359
and those records are at the top of every State Championships results across the country. I knew Alan Webb ran 3:59.51 before I knew what the difference between 1600 and a Mile was.
Illogical Man wrote:
Logical Man wrote:Breaking 4 for the mile require the breaking of 4 for the 1600m en route.
What part of the OP'S "Not a mile race with the 1600m time" is throwing you?
The stupidity of the question?
3:59.51 Alan Webb
I don't actually know when or where but I have it in a state/national record book that I got at my state meet, so I would assume it isn't a relay leg or full mile.
Has any high schooler broken 4min in a 1600m?
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THIS THREAD IS ABOUT 1600 RACES ONLY. NO SPLITS ALLOWED, AND THAT INCLUDES MILES. jeez louise.
Our high school state meet has a book listing the competitors in each event and the state and national records for the respective event as well. I recall looking at the 1600M and seeing Alan Webb with a 3:XX-something. It wasn't his 3:53 mile, but it was below 4.
Webb's 3:59.51 1600m was actually in a Mile race, but they had a camera at 1600 en route to get the "official" NFHS 1600 record as well. So I guess the answer to the OP's question is "no."
The NFHS records are recorded ONLY from State Championships. We stopped running the Mile in 1979.
When are we going to dump this stupid 1600 distance and get back to the mile.
No other country in the world runs 1600 !
This is absolutely false. NFHS records can occur outside of state meets, but they must occur in official high school only competition. For example, for a very brief time Alex Kosinski owned the 1600m NFHS record in 4:38.15 which was achieved at an invitational while chasing down Jordan Hasay.
What Else wrote:
The NFHS records are recorded ONLY from State Championships. We stopped running the Mile in 1979.
What Else wrote:
The NFHS records are recorded ONLY from State Championships. We stopped running the Mile in 1979.
In the U.S., we have NOT stopped running the Mile at the HS level - Massachusetts never dropped the Mile (or the 2 Mile) and select HS meets do run the Mile.
See:
http://bringbackthemile.com/news/detail/state_mile_guide_6_massachusetts1600 is a joke, has absolutely no merit, and needs to be removed. HS needs to go to the 1500 and mile like everyone else.
Middle Distance Coach wrote:
1600 is a joke, has absolutely no merit, and needs to be removed. HS needs to go to the 1500 and mile like everyone else.
Yes, running 3.75 laps has more merit than running 4 laps.
And running 4 laps and 9.344 meters has more merit than running 4 laps.
Glad you cleared that up for everyone.
What Else wrote:
This thread for real?
http://www.nfhs.org/recordbook/Records.aspx?CategoryId=1359and those records are at the top of every State Championships results across the country. I knew Alan Webb ran 3:59.51 before I knew what the difference between 1600 and a Mile was.
Those are not correct. Jason Pyrah belongs on the 1600 list. He ran 4:03.54 for 1600m at the MO State Championships (Class 3) in 1987.