GERMAN with the PB! 3:34.60 in Berlin!

Grats G wrote:

Gets the 'A Standard' for World Champs 2013 already!

There's been no word on when the window for 2013 opens.

That' the most relaxed and gregarious I've ever seen him in an interview.

You off your f$$$ Meds dude why are you event posting? Is that why Lagat run 3:26 in his days every race matter! Get that shit nail somewhere where you will see it ever time you wake up in the morning. As far as German winning races he is got what it takes, he just needs to stay healthy and fit.

time will tell wrote:

While this is a great time for him, and hopefully a nice confidence booster as he starts his professional career, what really matters is COMPETING. I think people tend to forget that. Take a look at Lagat. He almost never focuses on running a really fast time but on winning. That's why he was so successful (not as much now because he's 37). Tegenkamp and Centrowitz are also very good RACERS. More runners need to focus on racing and competing and not time trialing every time they are in a race. Don't get me wrong, this seems like a really solid breakthrough race, but he needs to learn to race and compete well for wins before we can ever really expect any sort of US championship.

dsrunner wrote:

If he keeps his volume lower, something in the 55-75/week range, then yes he can run 13' for 5000m.

Fernandez WILL run more than 55-75 mpw with Schumacher and he WILL run faster.

Thank god you don't coach anyone of importance.

dsrunner wrote:

The best US 1500m runners train moderate volume only, about the same as what German ran as a SR in HS. Lagat runs what, 70/week? So that's about what German needs to handle Rupp at 5000m.

Loading up the volume -- and not respecting limits on the quality of that additional volume -- was how German ended up stalling out as a collegiate. Overtraining has already cost him a few hundred thousand dollars.

If he keeps his volume lower, something in the 55-75/week range, then yes he can run 13' for 5000m.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

On the other hand, what kind of name is German? Is that a usual name for latino-americans? Is the name France Lopez also used for runners?

I think you mean French Lopez. Look for Swiss Rivera, Irish Sanchez, and Austrian Gomez to make their marks at some point too.

TrackCoach wrote:

Is there a video of this race anywhere?

TrackCoach wrote:

Nice run.

He never looked stressed in his 3:40, so I suspected a 3:36/37 was in the cards for his next race; I admit that I didn't see a 3:34 coming this soon. What's really refreshing is that I don't see him as a miler, it's going to be interesting to see what he can do when he races up in distance. Before he calls it a season, I would like to see him get the 5k WC standard out of the way.

Is there a video of this race anywhere?

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Running from the back as he did shows he still has a ways to go in understanding international class racing. He needs to stick his nose in it a tad more , put himself in position , to at least compete. View the race you will see.

He has been running as miler to date , lets see if he make the shift up as you say. Is he a sub 13 minute guy ?

All said this is great experience for him to be racing at this level in Europe , bodes well for his future.

Barakus Obama wrote:

On the other hand, what kind of name is German? Is that a usual name for latino-americans? Is the name France Lopez also used for runners?

German is the Spanish version of Herman. G in that location in a Spanish word is pronounced like H in English. Of course so few people get that that I think German gave up and pronounced like we say the name of the language at this point. It's a fairly common name among Spanish speaking folks.

Coach Pee wrote:

A fresh start for GF!

Do you remember the zillion postings on LR message boards that German was washed up and should leave running? I do.

Anyone who ran 8:34 for 2 miles in HS and the amazing 1600m/3200m double of 4:00:29 and 8:34 and is still but 22 is always going to have a talent bank that can be cashed in the right situation. Looks like we are getting close.

kiowavt wrote:

...Anyone who ran 8:34 for 2 miles in HS and the amazing 1600m/3200m double of 4:00:29 and 8:34 and is still but 22 is always going to have a talent bank that can be cashed in the right situation. Looks like we are getting close.

German is 21 years old. Will turn 22 in November.

He seemed to waste a lot of energy in the first 300, yet still pulled off a 55-56 last 400. He could well be in sub-3:34 fitness right now. Looking for sub-7:35 in hte upcoming 3000. 7:32 on a REALLY good night.

Loads on the volume/threshold training? Yes, PLEASE! Faster pace and more miles! I want you to get injured ASAP!This is too good to be true!

High Wire wrote:

He seemed to waste a lot of energy in the first 300, yet still pulled off a 55-56 last 400. He could well be in sub-3:34 fitness right now. Looking for sub-7:35 in hte upcoming 3000. 7:32 on a REALLY good night.

7:32? What are you on, dude?

His 3:34.6 is roughly the equivalent of a 7:39.x . Dreaming of a 7:32 at this stage (or even a 7:35) is just dreaming. If he breaks 7:40 it will be a HUGE PR and a fantastic harbinger of big things to come next year.

7:32? Where do you folks come from?

time will tell wrote:

While this is a great time for him, and hopefully a nice confidence booster as he starts his professional career, what really matters is COMPETING. I think people tend to forget that. Take a look at Lagat. He almost never focuses on running a really fast time but on winning. That's why he was so successful (not as much now because he's 37). Tegenkamp and Centrowitz are also very good RACERS. More runners need to focus on racing and competing and not time trialing every time they are in a race. Don't get me wrong, this seems like a really solid breakthrough race, but he needs to learn to race and compete well for wins before we can ever really expect any sort of US championship.

Good point, 7th is like the 6th loser...

Would have rather seen him go for it w/ 2-300 and see how it worked out.

1500 has always been his best event? I think 13:25 as a freshman is more impressive than 3:39. The fact that he can run this fast as a 5000m/10000m runner already is just testament to his raw talent. Rupp better watch out. I would not be surprised at all if he breaks 13 in the next year if his healthy. Is it too ambitious to ask for an American record from him in 2014? No championships and just chasing fast times. If he had stayed consistent in college he probably would have broken 13:10 by now.

Sorry, used the Indoor Tables which are skewed for some reason. Yeah, sub-7:40 would be great, 7:37 fantastic (but not unreal if what he says about training is relevant).

Well actually wrote:

7:32? What are you on, dude?

His 3:34.6 is roughly the equivalent of a 7:39.x . Dreaming of a 7:32 at this stage (or even a 7:35) is just dreaming. If he breaks 7:40 it will be a HUGE PR and a fantastic harbinger of big things to come next year.

7:32? Where do you folks come from?

You're an idiot. The right thing to do was run from the back I'm a race that goes out in 1:50. Unless you're a 3:28 or faster 1500 runner, that's not a pace to follow. Hence why he was picking off the slubs who went out too hard. You don't understand racing period. It's not about being near the front for half the race, fading and running 3:38. It's about giving yourself the best shot to win, and he did that perfectly.

...anyway you look at it, it's the 4th fastest 1500m by an American this year. He has never been ranked so high (outdoors) in his career and he is quite close to 2nd and 3rd. The best race of his life... Only 0.14 slower than Centro last year.

Very well done...

And no, he should not have been 3rd or 4th at 800m. He is not a 3:30 racer yet...