Again, one never knows, but I'd be surprised if it's not the Kenyans who determine the pace for the first 8000.
Runthedistance2 wrote:
The Kenyan Team General Manager talked about using different technigues in 10000m, expect to see something different from previous championships.
see 1:34
shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MUdMths4_k
Thank you for that link. It's always inspiring to witness the modest, serene self-assurance with which the kenyan athletes speak. Who's the white dude in the background doing laps?
Runthedistance2 wrote:
The Kenyan Team General Manager talked about using different technigues in 10000m, expect to see something different from previous championships.
see 1:34
shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MUdMths4_k
I am guessing that is Pamela Chelimo's trainer, he is an American
Rupp has not proven yet to be able to contend at a international championship. Some seem to think it is good that he has a champion like Mo Farah as a training partner. I see this as a detriment in this case. Rupp knows as well as anyone he can not beat Farah. This is why no one sees him as a threat to win. This also should be why no one should see him as a threat to medal. It takes much more than previously running under 27 in a 10000 meter race to medal at the Olympics. Rupp has not been able to handle the Africans tactics in a championship before and I see no reason for making him a medal contender.
In my humble opinion Rupp can win this race.He goes in with no pressure .the spotlightvwill be on bekele ,farah and the kenyans yet Rupp has the same fitness as farah n perhaps a better kick.My money is on rupp am not an american but i reckon the kid will do it
If Bekele loses to Farah, he will also lose to Rupp.
Id say its more 60% bekele, 17% Farah, 13% Rupp, 10% some african.
Gotta bad feeling Galen is headed for a bad beating by the Kenyans. Whats he going to do if one of them rolls out a sub 2 800 at 4 miles in? This ain't gonna be a fast time trial with even splits or a slow pace the whole way with final kick. This is going to be a war!
Montesquieu wrote:
I'd be surprised if it's not the Kenyans who determine the pace for the first 8000.
Like they did in their trials at Eugene?
Rupp has been improving. He can beat Farah now, and he can beat Bekele too, depending on Bekele's fitness.
J.R. wrote:
Montesquieu wrote:I'd be surprised if it's not the Kenyans who determine the pace for the first 8000.
Like they did in their trials at Eugene?
Rupp has been improving. He can beat Farah now, and he can beat Bekele too, depending on Bekele's fitness.
Again, the stupidest poster on this board offers more stupidity. Of course the Kenyans determined the pace for the first 8000m in Eugene. Who else could have done it when the race was only Kenyans. What a stooge you are.
Rupp CANNOT beat Farah or Bekele, and for you to say he can beat Bekele, depending on Bekele's fitness is like saying I can beat Rupp, depending on Rupp's fitness. How stupid are you?
U tell them SPMBLNPF, the stupidity of some people is beyond words.
spot on!!
Rupp can beat Bekele...hate to say it, but you Americans make me laugh. You consistently, with lack of any evidence it must be added, accuse Bekele of doping. Now you reckon Rupp can beat him....where I come from 2 + 2 = 4.Bekele is/ was infinitely more talented than Rupp through age groups and this is still the case!
nobody has mentioned that kenenisa has his brother in the race... if there is anyone that can sacrifice himself for kenny b.. it will be a brother.. i think if tariku makes it an honest pace.. i.e. if they make it to half way in 13:30 and then the next 3k is at 2:36 pace then mo and rupps kick may be impacted.
Montesquieu wrote:Why you feel the need to say "you clearly know nothing about this" and "nonsense" is beyond me
because that's the fact
but my point is that there are many Kenyans and Ethiopians who run so well at altitude, that they never run at sea-level what you'd expect them to run, given their altitude times
we are talking elites
- rudy 1'42.1A converts to 1'42.2 - what's he run sea-level ??
- isiah 13'09A converts to 12'50 - what's he run ??
Are there some who do so? Yes, but we're talking individual cases
elites are who we are interested in & their altitude times convert well
Despite the fact that my knowledge is limited here
so why are you wasting my time ???
you clearly don't know how or appreciate the conversion mechanism
I'm fairly confident Kiprop has yet to break 27
in a trials race where he didn't even look at the clock but whupped host of 26'43 & 26'50 guys
and 26:30 has been run by only three men in history, and only seven times in history, the last occasion being 2008, and the occasion before that 2005
same nonsense was spouted about no guy apart from kennster having broken 12'50 in years & only handful ever done
i said 1/2 dozen+ guys coud break 12'50 & posters laughed
then 1/2 dozen do it one race !
same nonsense about 26'30
admittedly there may only be 2 or 3 currently capable of it, including kennster, but there are 1/2 dozen guys capable now of 26'30 - 26'40
Kiprop has not shown he's capable of that kind of time
if his coach says 26'30/26'35, i'll take his word over some nobody on a bb
SPMBLNPF wrote:
Babbling nonsense
Wow, a stupid person tells me off.
Comparing Bekele to his DNFs is stupid, every single one of those he had no business being in the race in the first place. The fact that he showed up is proof he was just seeing what shape he was in.
Great call.
ventolin^3 wrote:
Montesquieu wrote:Why you feel the need to say "you clearly know nothing about this" and "nonsense" is beyond mebecause that's the fact
but my point is that there are many Kenyans and Ethiopians who run so well at altitude, that they never run at sea-level what you'd expect them to run, given their altitude times
we are talking elites
- rudy 1'42.1A converts to 1'42.2 - what's he run sea-level ??
- isiah 13'09A converts to 12'50 - what's he run ??
Are there some who do so? Yes, but we're talking individual cases
elites are who we are interested in & their altitude times convert well
Despite the fact that my knowledge is limited here
so why are you wasting my time ???
you clearly don't know how or appreciate the conversion mechanism
I'm fairly confident Kiprop has yet to break 27
in a trials race where he didn't even look at the clock but whupped host of 26'43 & 26'50 guys
and 26:30 has been run by only three men in history, and only seven times in history, the last occasion being 2008, and the occasion before that 2005
same nonsense was spouted about no guy apart from kennster having broken 12'50 in years & only handful ever done
i said 1/2 dozen+ guys coud break 12'50 & posters laughed
then 1/2 dozen do it one race !
same nonsense about 26'30
admittedly there may only be 2 or 3 currently capable of it, including kennster, but there are 1/2 dozen guys capable now of 26'30 - 26'40
Kiprop has not shown he's capable of that kind of time
if his coach says 26'30/26'35, i'll take his word over some nobody on a bb
stupiddoes wrote:
Rupp can beat Bekele...hate to say it, but you Americans make me laugh. You consistently, with lack of any evidence it must be added, accuse Bekele of doping. Now you reckon Rupp can beat him....where I come from 2 + 2 = 4.Bekele is/ was infinitely more talented than Rupp through age groups and this is still the case!
Silver for Rupp, 4th for K. Bekele. Not really surprising since Rupp beat Bekele by 6 seconds in that 5k earlier in the year and some of the other runners between the two in the race went on to run in the 12:40s and low 12:50s at another meet.