How fast will Adam Goucher run at RnR Philly this weekend?

So ... are you trying to say that he was in the Olympic final but was never an elite?

Anyway, I'll say he finishes faster than 1:03:55 (what Ryan ran last year) probably between 1:02:50 and 1:03:10.

thanks for attacking something other than my point, idiot.

I've been pretty critical of Goucher over the years. I was on board with him being more of a headcase than anything, but he seems to always find a way back and qualify for the meets he has to make (given his fitness)... so in that way, it's pretty hard to call him anything but tough.

I guess what I mean is, you don't make it back to being a sub 1:05 half guy at 36 when the last 5 or 6 years has been complete hell without a level of mental and physical toughness, all while being overshadowed by the success of your wife.

He's got a tendency to say some silly things at times, but then again, what does he have to lose. I think he'll get the time and he'll be competitive in the trials (don't think he'll make the team, but a top 15 place wouldn't suprise me). If anything, I've started to become more of a fan.

Good Luck Gouch.

Koneko wrote:

DNS or DNF.

Dude is a headcase never-was who only ever appeared "elite" because he ran during an era when U.S. distance running was stagnant.

Goucher would get crushed by most D1 athletes. Time to hang 'em up and retire like a man.

WRONG

3k 7:34 5th fastest american ever

5k 13:10 8th fastest american ever

6th in world xc, when they did the short course, one of the better american men finishes at world xc in decades.

at his best one of the best american runners.

tat said his best days seem to be behind him. i hope he hits his goal and qualifies for the trials, if he had run half marathons in his best years he probably could break 61 minutes.

Mark my words, you heard it heer first, Adam Goucher will clock a 1:04:30 for the tq.

If Mr. Goucher is currently participating in the same blood chemistry program as Mrs. Goucher, I estimate that he runs 1:02:30. He's got a huge engine, but he is a highly inefficent runner. He will need a boost to succeed at the half marathon.

A better question than the one that started this post is, "How many hotdogs could Adam Goucher eat in 10 minutes?". Given his amazing likeness to Joey Chestnut, I think he could eat 65 or so.

Er... wrote:

Mark my words, you heard it heer first, Adam Goucher will clock a 1:04:30 for the tq.

Mark my words Adam will run 1:04:31

Does it even matter? USATF will just let him into the trials regardless...

goucher needles wrote:

If Mr. Goucher is currently participating in the same blood chemistry program as Mrs. Goucher, I estimate that he runs 1:02:30. He's got a huge engine, but he is a highly inefficent runner. He will need a boost to succeed at the half marathon.

A better question than the one that started this post is, "How many hotdogs could Adam Goucher eat in 10 minutes?". Given his amazing likeness to Joey Chestnut, I think he could eat 65 or so.

There's no way he'll even try to run faster than 1:04. He needs 1:05, so will set the pace between 1:04 and 1:04:30.

He was on pace for a 1:02:13 at the 10km point of the 2008 SJ RNR half, but slipped to a pace for a 1:04:50 at the 10 mile point, then faded in the kast 5km and finished with a 1:05:43.

He'll definetly not go out to fast this time!

I know it's a very long shot but I would love to see him on the Olympic Marathon team. He's a tough runner.

You could not identify an inefficient runner if he ran up your ass-side and over your head, heel-striking the entire route.

Good speed to Mr. Goucher.

I am always mystified why anyone would wish poor results for any of our fellow racers.

From my contact with this guy he is a class act, and so is Kara...both have world class wheels and effort to match.

who even does this race anymore. For the average Joe competitor group ruined it. I hear part of Goucher's deal for coming is he gets to do a duet with Brett Michaels for Unskinny Bop.

1:07

Yeah okay, no. How long ago was that? That's what I thought.

Adam is so overrated it's sick. Kara is highly overrated but not as much as him.

Adam will dnf or run slow. Kara does not make top 3 in the trials....marathon.

Enjoy the bantering as anyone who thinks he's going to run a 1:02-1:04 at age 36 with no recent races to indicate such times is a nut and grasping for straws. Adam is cooked, I wish he wasn't, but he is. Time to move on.

Kara will do the same after missing top 3 in the trials and then will cash in at Boston for her mistakes in the trials...too fast, too slow, too cold, too hot, etc...

different drummer3 wrote:

Yeah okay, no. How long ago was that? That's what I thought.

Adam is so overrated it's sick. Kara is highly overrated but not as much as him.

Adam will dnf or run slow. Kara does not make top 3 in the trials....marathon.

Enjoy the bantering as anyone who thinks he's going to run a 1:02-1:04 at age 36 with no recent races to indicate such times is a nut and grasping for straws. Adam is cooked, I wish he wasn't, but he is. Time to move on.

Kara will do the same after missing top 3 in the trials and then will cash in at Boston for her mistakes in the trials...too fast, too slow, too cold, too hot, etc...

you're an idiot

different drummer3 wrote:

Yeah okay, no. How long ago was that? That's what I thought.

Adam is so overrated it's sick. Kara is highly overrated but not as much as him.

Adam will dnf or run slow. Kara does not make top 3 in the trials....marathon.

Enjoy the bantering as anyone who thinks he's going to run a 1:02-1:04 at age 36 with no recent races to indicate such times is a nut and grasping for straws. Adam is cooked, I wish he wasn't, but he is. Time to move on.

Kara will do the same after missing top 3 in the trials and then will cash in at Boston for her mistakes in the trials...too fast, too slow, too cold, too hot, etc...

This^

Is Kara posting on this board? I can't believe how many Adam G defenders are here...

Dude is a headcase and wimp. Never quite broke into the elite ranks and blamed all his problems on "depression", injuries, etc. For the past few years, he's only been able to get into elite races because of his Salazar/Nike connections. That 10,000 he ran at the Trials was a disgrace.

And stop hyping up his finish at World XC. He ran that during the period when the field was split into the 4k/12k races, thus diluting the field. It's like a track meet with a 3,000 and 5,000 on the same night.

Goucher is toast. This DNS (or DNF) will be his last race and hopefully he can retire somewhat gracefully.

Ummmm, because she constantly brags incessantly about herself and is not ever going to break 2:20, which she did said, yet alone approach Paula's record in the future.

Confidence is one thing dude, but she's over the top and I am glad that Desi finally put her in her place. I was laughed at when I said Desi would beat her in Boston and many posters chimed in saying she had plenty of time after giving birth. Then after Desi beats her out come the excuse makers, including Kara herself who said prior to the race that she was well prepared and had bounced back quicker than even she expected. She didn't have a bad race, but when the real racing started, where was she?

As for Adam, give me a break. What has he done in the last 4 years?

It is not wishing poor results, it's being realistic, which you aren't. Adam has no chance to make the men's team in the 5, 10, or marathon as he's not breaking 1:05 in the half.

I agree with others on Kara. She may make top 3, but it's far from a sure thing and I for one won't be surprised if she doesn't make it. I am seeing 4th or 5th and would rather see someone else make it. She won't drop out as there is money involved.

No move for you, checkmate!

Thanks. Come back after the race and comment then. You know nothing about running. I've run 30:03 for 10,000, what have you done? Enjoy your quest for the elusive sub 4 hour marathon.