Chris Johnson Says He'll Become A Track Star IF NFL Lockout

My brother Dwight is faster than Chris Johnson.

We might see that at the schools, we don't see that at the Combine. Way too much $$$$ on the line to be BS-ing.

I was watching some of the combine on NFL Network, and while the 40 is electronically timed, it is on the first movement of the player and not subject to any reaction times. Once they are down in their stance they have to be "set" before they then take off, but it is when they feel like they are ready.

He is special he is playing in the NFL your brother is not!

Obviously he wouldn't be a "track star," but he was a stud on the track in HS. He only got beaten by Walter Dix at his state meet:

http://www.dyestat.com/3state/FL/4out/34statemeet/4a.htm

(Nice double by Jenny Barringer, btw)

Yes, everybody has entirely forgotten...what was his name again?

40 times are just as exaggerated as are the vertical jump measurements.

He proved that to the world the first time he ever opened his mouth in front of a camera.

dean moriarty wrote:

Obviously he wouldn't be a "track star," but he was a stud on the track in HS. He only got beaten by Walter Dix at his state meet:

http://www.dyestat.com/3state/FL/4out/34statemeet/4a.htm

(Nice double by Jenny Barringer, btw)

Bolt vs the rest of the world:

See how far back Darvis Patton is in this picture? That's a 10.34. Chris Johnson's best is reportedly 10.38.

Those NFLers at sub 10.30/9.5

Bob Hayes

James Trapp

James Jett

J.D.Hill

Cliff Branch

Ken Thomas

Alvis Whitted

Jacoby Ford

Trindon Holliday

Henry Carr

Isacc Curtis

Mel Gray

Mark Duper

Joe Delaney

Willie Gault

Ron Brown

Michael Haynes

Sam Graddy

Tony Jones

Johnny Jones

Michael Bennett

Darrel Green

Jamaal Charles

Herkie Walls

Phil Epps

Mike Miller

Deion Sanders

Renaldo Nehemiah

Herschel Walker

Anrew Hopkins

Frank Budd

Tommie Smith

Ray Norton

Cyril Pinder

O.J.Simpson

Darin Nelson

Homer Jones

Gerald Tinker

Jimmy Hines

Larry Burton

Curtis Dickey

Michael Bates

Sammie Parker

Anthony Miller

Curtis Conway

Cecil Turner

Pat Johnson

Chris Sanders

Len Willis

John Roderick

Willie McGee

Harold Jackson

Bob Paremore

Rocky Thompson

Butch Wolfolk

...as we can see Chris Johnson is nothing special/unique.

hjadshk wrote:

My brother, a white soccer player, ran 10.49 as a senior in his first year of track, but went on to play D1 soccer. Chris Johnson aint nothin special.

F.A.T.?

That is special. Very special. If your brother did that, then please list his name. I don't understand why he'd need this to be secret information.

haha dont get all sad rojo, dude is a troll...but really dont call FAT and not expect to get called out, maybe pre 2000, but 99% of all FAT's since 2000 are all online...shit even mine are

Sprint Geezer wrote:

Yes, everybody has entirely forgotten...what was his name again?

40 times are just as exaggerated as are the vertical jump measurements.

I don't doubt that the 40 times are BS but the thing no one talking about is that Johnson's 40 time was indeed faster than both Jacoby Ford and Trindon Holliday.

1. Chris Johnson 4.24

2. Jacob Ford 4.28

3. Trindon Holiday 4.34

I think it's a track fans default defense mechanism to say "No way could that guy be a world class track athlete." But I'm wondering based on the 40 if he actually could.

I know the 40 times are inaccurate but are they equally inaccurate for everyone is my question?

Comparing apples vs. oranges is tricky, but we can account for certain factors (differences) that have known quantitative effects.

A few things to keep in mind here:

1) Chris Johnson's 100m times are from high school, and shouldn't be the [unadjusted] gauge for comparison to Bolt (or other T&Fers). I guarantee CJ can run faster now than he did in HS.

2) Within the course of Bolt's 100m races, using the timed 10m splits, Bolt's best time over 40yards was approximately 4.39 (some have suggested 4.37). This is actually similar to the 40y split for Maurice Greene's 60m WR.

Of course, Bolt's strength is in the latter part of the race: 40m to 70m or 80m, where his top end speed pulls away from the others.

3) HAND-TIMED START: CJ's famous 40y time (4.24) at the NFL combine was achieved using electronic timing, but that is only at the finish. The start is still hand-timed, and with the most skilled human timers who are practiced at this, there is a reaction time of approx .10 to .15 after the runner has started. (The timer reacts to the runner, not vice versa as in track.) To equate the NFL 40 to a track time, we'd need to add .10+ here to CJ's 4.24, giving him (generously) a 4.34.

4) REACTION TIME TO GUN: For top 100m sprinters, these range from about .15 to .22, with Bolt's WR sprint having a reaction time of .165. If you had CJ's 40y time in reaction to a starter's gun on the track, add .15+, giving him about 4.39. (again, generously)

Note that these adjustments, correcting for timing procedural differences, have Bolt & CJ at almost the same time for 40 yards.

5) STARTING BLOCKS: Track uses them; the NFL Combine's 40y doesn't. The starting blocks help HUGELY to those who have trained for track to take advantage of them. How much (in seconds) do they assist? I don't have any data on that..... and won't venture a guess. But given that we have CJ & Bolt equal in the 40y with the other adjustments with Bolt using blocks and CJ not, I'd have to presume that if both used blocks, CJ would definitely beat Bolt in the 40 yards.

But as any of us who have watched Bolt run 100m, 150m, 200m knows, many folks are close to (or occasionally ahead of) Bolt at 40 yards. And then... then he is gone.

I'd bet at 50meters, we'd have a very close race. Over 100m, my money is on Bolt, but I do believe CJ is running 9.90 to 9.95 range. And I wouldn't be surprised to see CJ crack <9.90 on the lucky day when his RT is dead on.

And btw: even if CJ has the NFL's fastest 40y time, that may not necessarily mean he's the fastest NFL guy over 100m. I'd bet there are a dozen guys in the NFL who could break <10.0 for 100m, but the bigger money & bigger fame is in football, not track, so they end up going that direction.

No way CJ is a sub10.00 sprinter. He is one of those with a quick pick up. The 100m is all about speed endurance something he doesn't have. I can see a 10.28-ish if he did get serious about sprinting.

Fair, but what was Bolt running for 100 meters when he was 17?All I'm saying is that if I was the fourth ranked football player in high school and played professional baseball instead, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of returning to football if baseball didn't pan out. Chris Johnson was one of the 5-10 best sprinting prospects in the country coming out of high school.

He wasn't running many 100's, but his 200 PR at 17 was 19.93. Do the math

I was watching the Dempsey indoor a couple weeks ago. Saw LaMichael James run the 60M. I know next to nothing about track sprinting technique. Still, I was struck by how sloppy it looked compared to watching Tyson Gay, Usain Bolt and company. I'm very doubtful to say the least that Johnson could become a track star at the professional level.

Then I think you haven't watched CJ's longer (60y-90y) breakaway runs in pads. I believe he *does* have decent sprint endurance.

But I do think there are others in the NFL who may even be faster than CJ over 100m.

I think it's a shame that in the USA, with all the money & fame going to ballers, that many of our best potential T&F athletes don't even compete in T&F, and never find out how good they could have been in the T&F world, because they focus on FB (or even hoops).

I'm not saying that Bolt/Gay/Powell/Michael Johnson/etc aren't really the fastest in the world; I'm just thinking that the [barely] next tier down of world-class also-rans is severely depleted, and there are far more potential 10.0s and sub10s out there than we are seeing actually compete in track.

In the states, if you are fast like that & can ball, you have to be 'stupid' [sic] not to go into football instead. There's no money OR fame in track here in this country. And that's a crying shame.

As a multi-eventer, I still wonder what a Herschel Walker or others like him could have done in the Decathlon.... I really really really wish we could get more of our talented athletes to take T&F seriously.

I don't know if anyone would complain if he turned up to run.

Where I think he'd suffer is his attention span.

Raghib Ishmael won the indoor championship a few years ago in an Olympic year - or close to it. He was asked if he was going to try out for the O, and he said it would take him at least two years to build himself up to running a fast 100m. Given the heats and extra rounds. He was talented and smart.

Dionne Sanders was quick and fast. He tried to run in the Olympics and was run out in the semi's of the trials I believe in about 10.25. He is a great athlete.

I am sure htis guy is quick, but he's not circus quick.

But by all means, if it puts more bums on seats, let's not discourage him. Just don't make him run a heat. You'll not see him in many finals.