2011 Big Ten T&F

Lets be honest, Warhurst trained him like a moron.

Forys is one of the top ten high school distance runners in history and hasn't done a thing. Gibby is a miracle for him; qualified as an individual for NCAA XC.

Michigan will be best XC program in Big 10 within 2 years.

Bayer is god.

"Forys is one of the top ten high school distance runners in history"

In jersey maybe...Even Craig would say that is a ridiculous statement.

Off the top of my head let me think of ten that were better...

1. Ritz

2. Webb

3. Centro Jr

4. Solinsky

5. Rupp

6. Fernandez

7. Derrick

8. Verzbicas

9. Derrick

10. Joe Rosa

And I kept it all with in 10-11 years or so.

Craig was better than Solinsky, Derrick, and Rosa himself has said Forys was the stadard he was striving for. Forys owns almost every record in NJ on courses that have been run on for decades and then went 8:40 or soemthing "Ritz-like" for 2miles.

Probably have to throw IU into the mix to win. They certainly have the mile, 3000, and 5000 covered (probably good for 50 points right there)

Drouin wins high jump and no worse than 3rd in multi (16)

Onye is back for 3rd in weight (6)

Sprinters in 60 and 200 should get (16) combined

Stud pole vaulter that will end up winning (10)

Long/Triple will land them (10) combined

DMR not worse than 2nd (8)

600 and 800 for (5)

So around 120 points and I probably don't know the whole team.

50 points in the 1500, 3000, 5000!!!! Come on seriously. Just because someone has run a fast time early in the season does NOT mean they'll win a Big Ten Championship and dominate the 3 distance events like that. This isn't Madden Track and Field!

Bottom line is the Big Ten is full of good distance talent right now, probably the deepest it's been in years. Most of the really good distance guys could care less about Indoor Big Ten's so the races are going to be really close. Come outdoor the IU guys will be going out the back door as usual and it'll be all Badgers all day:-)

No way was Forys better than Derrick. Derrick ran 8:48 with mono. Before he got sick he ran 13:52 5K solo with no pacing help.

sorry foys wrote:

Craig was better than Solinsky, Derrick, and Rosa himself has said Forys was the stadard he was striving for. Forys owns almost every record in NJ on courses that have been run on for decades and then went 8:40 or soemthing "Ritz-like" for 2miles.

Craig was not better than any of them in high school. He ran 8:46 in the 2Mile senior year to get 2nd at Nationals, he was 2nd at Foot Locker.

Solinsky WON foor locker with the largest winning margin in history at the time and had PRs of 8:43 and 4:03.

Derrick WON NXN, 2nd in one of the deepest FL Finals in history, named Gatorade Athlete of the Year for XC and ran the fastest ever 5k in a HS only race 13:55 in a complete solo effort at Arcadia before getting mono.

Rosa is not even done yet and broke Craig's course record at Holmdel and crushed his Manhattan time, which was the course record for a few minutes the day Craig ran it. On top of that, he WON nationals in the 2Mile running 8:44.0 and he still has this year.

Dont make ridiculous claims like that. With that being said, Craig did a lot of great things in HS.

blue go wrote:

Michigan will be best XC program in Big 10 within 2 years.

hahahahaha

info, you are an idiot.

Indiana looks good with some top-level, 10-point scorers, such as Dourin (sp?) in the HJ, and Bayer's 3000 was excellent.

At Wisconsin this weekend, freshman did:

1 (Block) a) broke the school record (unofficially, since it was indoors) in the discus; b) won the WtThrow; c) won the SP at 59-6.

2 (Cato) Auto'ed in the Hept, with a 2.12 HJ, 5.00m PV, 24-ft LJ, hitting almost 5700 despite having to do a safety SP of 35feet (I did that as a 140-lb distance runner).

3 (Hatz) won the mile in 4:04 (Connor 4:05) on the track which is a bit slow after going out way too fast (I heard 59 for the 'quarter, which was actually 409.3m).

26mi235 wrote:

3 (Hatz) won the mile in 4:04 (Connor 4:05) on the track which is a bit slow after going out way too fast (I heard 59 for the 'quarter, which was actually 409.3m).

You may have heard that, but it isn't true. 61+ to the 409 mark and the race closed in 60 point something. If anything it didn't go out fast enough because Connor couldn't get to the rail and spent the first 860 meters running in lane 2 and in a pissing match with the CMU guy who wouldn't let him in. He should have elbowed that guy into the long jump pit when he had the chance. Connor is way too nice.

460 meters in the previous post rather than 860. In any event, way too long to be in lane 2.

A little love towards Ohio State. They've been up in the top 3 last couple years and seems liked they had some great performances this weekend.