I'm mad as hell, and I want my country back!

Addendum from Wiki:

Only six people attended his (Paine's) funeral as he had been ostracized due to his criticism and ridicule of Christianity

so ...had he praised Christianity maybe 7 people would have shown up.

Reality Bath wrote:

Addendum from Wiki:

Only six people attended his (Paine's) funeral as he had been ostracized due to his criticism and ridicule of Christianity

Keynes Killer wrote:

This current U.S. government is worse and more oppressive than the British monarchy we gained our independence from. Pathetically, the current generation of Americans is complacent, having lost the spirit of individualism and self-reliance and embraced an entitlement mentality.

A big, big +1.

Reality Bath wrote:

Keynes Killer wrote:

Thomas Paine was a deist, not an atheist.

From the Wiki:

"... arguing against institutionalized religion and Christian doctrines."

Deists believed in a Supreme Being that had no interst in human affairs and rejected any supernatural intervention in such. Take that as you wish, it certainly rejects religion as most people practice it today.

Other Deists were Franklin, Jefferson and probably Lincoln.

That quote doesn't make any distinction between atheist or deist. It just says he didn't like institutionalized religion. Well, hell, I don't like the church either, but my faith in God couldn't be stronger. He was probably a deist. Atheists are always trying to paint the history of the country in a light that suits them when it just wasn't so. Thomas Paine wasn't particularly popular as a politician, but he was very popular for some of the works he put out. He would never have been elected for obvious reasons, and was never one of the founding fathers. That doesn't mean he wasn't right or that he didn't make some points that people liked.

If only people with college degrees were allowed to vote, this would be a very different country.

This is true. I know people with college educations who still don't know the facts. But there are a lot fewer than the idiots who believe some of the garbage being thrown at them.

More folks should read this, in and out of government:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington%27s_Farewell_Address

When one looks objectively today, it seems as though the higher the education, the greater the propensity to believe in total nonsense. Years and years spent subjected to leftist BS strips away any shred of common sense one may have held. This is not a knock on higher education, just an observation. Anyway....Buckley was right about the Boston/Cambridge type.

mez wrote:

When one looks objectively today, it seems as though the higher the education, the greater the propensity to believe in total nonsense. Years and years spent subjected to leftist BS strips away any shred of common sense one may have held. This is not a knock on higher education, just an observation. Anyway....Buckley was right about the Boston/Cambridge type.

Buckley was a Yale educated elite. He wasn't knocking the educated, he was knocking Harvard.

If you don't believe in Divine Intervention in human affairs, or the supernatural (miracles, divinity of Jesus, etc.), and feel free to criticize and even ridicule Christianity, then you might be a Deist too! Somehow I doubt it, though.

See if you can find the irony in this post. You gotta look for it, but it's in there.

mez wrote:

When one looks objectively today, it seems as though the higher the education, the greater the propensity to believe in total nonsense. Years and years spent subjected to leftist BS strips away any shred of common sense one may have held. This is not a knock on higher education, just an observation. Anyway....Buckley was right about the Boston/Cambridge type.

I suppose you mean China - it is too late. The hordes from

Asia will take over and there is nothing nobody can do about

it. Get ready for enslavement -the irony of history ain't it?

90% of the current hysteria over big government tyranny boils down to "I don't like having a democrat (especially a black democrat w/ a funny name) in office so I want my country back!" Whaa, whaaa. Where the hell were you guys during the preceding 8 years? Presidential signing statements, extraordinary renditions, Guantanamo, electronic surveillance, unitary executive, Iraq and non-existent WMDs, unfunded Medicare expansion, wars AND tax cuts? Anyone?

troubling part of politics since bush2 is the delegitimising of the president. I live in a big NE city and there were many 'He's not my president' bumper stickers. And clearly, there are millions of americans who don't consider Obama to be their president.

Sad.

Probably nothing new, but still sad.

Obama is a drooling beat. It's a good thing that he's in office, because he is going to cause a major ideological counter-reaction against the left and big government.

agip wrote:

troubling part of politics since bush2 is the delegitimising of the president. I live in a big NE city and there were many 'He's not my president' bumper stickers. And clearly, there are millions of americans who don't consider Obama to be their president.

Sad.

Probably nothing new, but still sad.

it's ok Bush2 was never my president, I just didn't have a bumper sticker.

Too Bad wrote:

Too bad for you. HMOs, PPOs, Doctors, Hospitals, Drug Companies, and Pharmacies are now regulated public utilities under the laws of the United States Government.

Thank God.

tighty righty wrote:

90% of the current hysteria over big government tyranny boils down to "I don't like having a democrat (especially a black democrat w/ a funny name) in office so I want my country back!" Whaa, whaaa. Where the hell were you guys during the preceding 8 years? Presidential signing statements, extraordinary renditions, Guantanamo, electronic surveillance, unitary executive, Iraq and non-existent WMDs, unfunded Medicare expansion, wars AND tax cuts? Anyone?

Great post... Nothing worse than the phoney tea partiers who were fine with Bush spending like a dunken airman and taking away freedom after freedom.

where were all those retards when Bush was "ignoring the Constitution" with his signing orders?

REALITY CHECK:

the country was never yours to begin with. unless you're

a) a NATIVE american (then sure, it was originally yours)

or

b) an extremely wealthy person (top 10% of american wealth), then:

1) the country still is YOURS.

so i'm not really sure what you're trying to get back, taking into consideration that you're most likely neither of these.

Your quote says nothing of the sort. It's only like 5 words, how could it?