Was The Acronym T.C.U. mentioned once during the BCS Title Game?

I can't see TCU going undefeated in SEC, PAC-10 or BIG 10...

Me neither. And yet, if you had a plus-one scenario, it would be Auburn vs TCU. But, this year, you had two undefeated teams from major conferences, so you had a reasonable argument for a title game. If you went to a four-team playoff as I'd prefer, you'd have Auburn, TCU, Stanford, and Oklahoma. Not sure you could include OSU in there.

But the best team is the champion. Teams like Oregon and Boise State that routinely beat up on opponents have a tendency of finally losing when pitted against a solid defense versus the teams that play trench warfare every week, like the SEC. That's why the SEC always "surprises" people, even two-loss LSU a couple years ago. At least TCU gets its chance joining the Big Easy next year. Remember, West Virginia was headed to the BCS championship game until they lost to Pitt a few years back.

It reminds me of New Mexico in NCAA basketball last year. I believe they only had three losses and were the #3 seed headed into the tournament. Were they better than some of the #4 seeds or the #8 and 9 seeds for that matter? I don't think so. In fact, didn't they exit rather early to a much lower seed?

In a playoff situation I think it would be hard not to include Wisconsin...probably over OK

Well, in a perfect world, you only have the four major bowls. Then take the winners of those bowls, seed them, and play them off. OU-UConn, OSU-Ark, and/or Stanford/Va Tech. all could've been the "also-ran" bowl this year where the winner gets eliminated from the conversation, though I think Stanford is better than Oregon now. Frankly, Va Tech and UConn should've been matched and that bowl eliminated from any talk about a four-team playoff. Plus, Wisconsin didn't even win their bowl against a non-major opponent. Gotta do that to be in the conversation.

Of course, in a perfect world, all conferences have 12 teams, play a conference championship game, and try to schedule at least two legit major nonconference opponents during the season, one at home and one on the road and preferably at least one later in the season for parity.

The Auburn Tigers are the national champion. It is as it should be.

I sure didn't hear "T.C.U." on the TV out here in Thailand. It was a great game, but yes, Oregon really screwed the pooch.

Auburn didn't WIN the game. Oregon LOST the game.

Finally Rojo and I agree on something. Yes I think that the Horned Frogs should show up on the 29th and demand a game at the Auburn Stadium to decide the real champion.

You know, UT-Austin and Texas A&M REFUSE to schedule a game against TCU.....BECAUSE THEY MIGHT LOSE!!!!

As for my team, the University Of Nevada - Reno, we won our bowl game, the worthless "Kraft Hunger Bowl" ...our reward for beating Boise State and going 12-1, one touchdown from going undefeated. The whole system STINKS.

Of course the bigger issue is the lack of a playoff. The NCAA should look at it this way: What if they said "We have decided not to have a 64-team March Madness Basketball tournament because it's too much trouble. Now we are going to have a committee and a computer pick the top 2 teams to have a game and declare a champion. Oh yeah, the corporations of America can sponsor exhibition games for all the other teams." I think that people would be protesting en masse at the NCAA offices, right?

Whether Oregon lost the game is up for serious debate. Auburn was the BETTER team.

Going into the bowls, Boise State, TCU, and Nevada played the #70, 80, and 86 strength of schedules respectively. Contrast that to Auburn's #15, Oergon's #19, and Stanford's #10. BSU, UNR, and TCU would all have at least one loss in a major conference, let alone a non-major one. Nevada lost to Hawaii didn't they, the team that was crushed by the mighty Tulsa Roughnecks and Colorado Buffaloes?

Rojo's 2011 cross country schedule will consist of bus trips to Stillwater, Palo Alto, Boulder, Madison, and Tallahassee. If the Big Red Bus pulls up and those teams don't want to race Cornell, what will people think?

Make that the Golden Hurricane I think, though the Roughnecks would be a better mascot for the school than a soccer team. Also, one could easily argue that UNR didn't beat BSU; BSU lost that game because of their kicker using your logic.

Now that the bowls are over, this would be my hypothetical playoff bracket for these 4 teams:

Boise State vs Auburn

TCU vs Stanford

The winners of each game play for the undisputed national championship.

TCU barely beat Wisconsin. Both teams would get horse-pounded by Auburn, Oregon and Stanford.

TCU is good but... wrote:

Not sure why you think TCU should be in the conversation. If you recall the Rose Bowl, they barely beat Wisconsin...2 pts and Wisconsin lost the game more than TCU won.

I would love to see a playoff situation in college football, but the BCS games this year were really good.

I'm not sure which game you watched. TCU was up 8 nearly the entire second half and got the ball on the 50 or past midfield a couple of times and punted each time. Wisco doesn't stop them there and TCU goes in and gets up 15 or 22 and you don't say what you're saying. It could get ugly from there as Wisconsin had to rely on the run and if they're down 15 they have to pass.

TCU may have won by only 2 but just like Auburn last night if you're up 8 in the 4th quarter things turn out usually pretty well for you.

Nick. S wrote:

TCU barely beat Wisconsin. Both teams would get horse-pounded by Auburn, Oregon and Stanford.

Auburn barely beat f***ing Kentucky this year, shut the f*** up.

TCU's good but... wrote:

I can't see TCU going undefeated in SEC, PAC-10 or BIG 10...

I can see them going undefeated in the Pac10. And Auburn almost lost 3 games in the SEC so saying they wouldn't go undefeated isn't saying something you wouldn't say about any other team.

Oregon ends the season having beaten 1 ranked team this year- Stanford and no wins against anyone else in the AP top 40 (actually top 39- any team that got a vote in the final poll). (Correct me if I'm wrong)

TCU also ends the season with 1 win versus a top 25 team- Wisconsin.

But they also have wins vs #26 Utah, #28 San Diego State, #35 Air Force, and #38 BYU. Yes the rest of the MWC sucks but who cares. If you're playing #70 vs #100 I don't think it matters much.

neanderthal dream wrote:

rojo wrote:

They'll have to play and please don't tell me the NCAA can stop it.

I'm pretty sure they could. Don't football games have to be sanctioned by the NCAA? Suppose TCU does try to pull something like this (which I'm all for, btw), the NCAA just has to say, "Ok, no postseason for you for the next two years" and TCU chickens out.

NXN has "club teams" compete. Why can't the Fort Worth Football Club play the Auburn Football Club? January 24th.

Mark Cuba at least looked into it:

AUBURN FOOTBALL WAS THE BEST THIS YEAR NUFF SAID

For pete's sake, give it a rest. If you play the equivalent of mid-major teams for 9 of your 12 games, get a couple of quality wins, and finish undefeated, we'll let you play in the doggone ROSE BOWL. Who can complain about that? On any given day, TCU (or Boise) can beat anybody. But going undefeated through the SEC west (while also getting the east champion in the regular season) is no comparison. If TCU were in the SEC, they'd be a lot like SC. Eight or nine wins in a good year, and a nasty trap game if you catch them after an off week.

Even in last night's game (which was the legit #1-2 matchup), the score didn't indicate how lopsided the game really was. Holding Oregon to 76 rushing yards? Taking away their ability to set tempo with no-huddle? 500+ offensive yards? Dyer rushing for 140+, and how many third and shorts did Newton pick up?

Yes, on any given day, TCU could catch a break and beat Auburn once. But come on. The BCS stinks, but this year there's no doubt that the national champions deserve it (at least on the field; not counting any discussion of Newton's dad).

Me thinks rojo been smoking some of those funny Ivy League cigarettes! Where were all these "I think TCU deserves a shot at Auburn and the national championship" folks when Auburn ran the table in 2003 and got shut out of the BCS game. We didn't hear you screaming then!

BCS is not perfect, but it is the best we have. Probably the two most deserving teams met last night, and the better one won. TCU and Boise State have good teams, but as long as they do not play the tough schedule that SEC schools play, they will play second fiddle in the rankings when they have similar records.

Come one Rojo dont they teach you anything at Cornell?