Please tell me why the UNDEFEATED TCU Horned Frogs don't deserve the chance to play for a national championship?

for the past 125 years we can only speculate on what could have been. the same for this year. all the work is a tragic loss with no NCAA Brackets and no NCAA Nat'l Champion.

oh. i thought TCU was a s**t team who played other s**t schools and was way over ranked by the BCS system. or is that just boise state now? is it popular to like them now that they beat Wisconsin? please let me know, because i need to know which bandwagon to jump on.

TCU and Boise State both played a higher strength of schedule than Ohio State which rather makes Gee look foolish

jack of all tirades wrote:

runnnnnnnn wrote:

Because Auburn and Oregon are still better.

I guess if you say so

If you think TCU deserves to play for the NC, which of Oregon and Auburn do you think they should be playing in place of?

coach d wrote:

jack of all tirades wrote:

I guess if you say so

If you think TCU deserves to play for the NC, which of Oregon and Auburn do you think they should be playing in place of?

Whoever comes out on top on the 10th plays the Frogs.

Phil. wrote:

TCU and Boise State both played a higher strength of schedule than Ohio State which rather makes Gee look foolish

Not true, at least before the bowls. TCU, no doubt, got a bump from playing Wisconsin, but so will Ohio State. But their overall schedules were relatively weak compared to the teams ranked ahead of them.

And that's the problem... it's the whole body of work that matters, not the ability to get up for one game, which any good team can do. That said, a plus-one would solve the controversy this year as it would 90% of the time.

As far as I'm concerned, the Big Ten has looked relatively weak thus far, owned by the SEC, and a win over their conference champ isn't as impressive in light of that. Oregon is getting vindication for the year they were passed over by non-conference champ Nebraska (2001) when they should've been playing for the national championship, and Auburn is getting payback for the year they went undefeated but were passed over by an Oklahoma squad that got crushed by SC in the title game. To go undefeated in a MAJOR conference is significant, and to have two teams do it means that that is, in fact, your national championship.

BOTH Oregon and auburn are UNDEFEATED and both have played a harder schedule! Plain and simple. If TCU had played a harder schedule and were still undefeated then we would have something to talk about.

Also, just bc TCU is in the big east next year doesn't make their schedule harder. Had they been there this year and were undefeated, Oregon and auburn are still more deserving to play in the championship game bc we all know the PAC 10 and the SECOND are way better than the big easy! Look at uconn did last night!

Lastly, while it is, no doubt, the final score that ultimately matters, I'm pretty sure TCU was favored and didn't cover the spread. Statistically, they were the lesser of the two teams, allowing 226 yards on the ground alone and getting dominated in time of possession. Wisconsin's botched field goal really hurt them. But Sagarin only had them ranked as the second best Big Ten team and the #15 team overall anyway, which is a notable statistic if you hate the BCS.

That said, I really wish TCU was going to the Big 12 and not the Big Easy. That would've been a much better fit.

Sagarin wrote:

That said, I really wish TCU was going to the Big 12 and not the Big Easy. That would've been a much better fit.

It's not like TCU chose to go to the Big East over the Big 12, it's the only BCS conference that would let them in.

runnnnnnnn wrote:

Because Auburn and Oregon are still better.

Maybe, but TCU should get to play them ON THE FIELD to truly determine that. That's the whole f***ing point.

You TCU bandwagoners are acting like Wisconsin is actually a good team. You do realize that Wisconsin is in the Big 10, right? And you do realize that the Big 10 isn't that good, right?

Michigan State, Ohio State, and Wisconsin all tied at the top of the Big 10 standings.

Michigan State also played on Saturday. And they lost by 42. It would have been similar pickings for the other two, and TCU.

McBride wrote:

You TCU bandwagoners are acting like Wisconsin is actually a good team. You do realize that Wisconsin is in the Big 10, right? And you do realize that the Big 10 isn't that good, right?

Michigan State, Ohio State, and Wisconsin all tied at the top of the Big 10 standings.

Michigan State also played on Saturday. And they lost by 42. It would have been similar pickings for the other two, and TCU.

Let's say Ohio State wins Tuesday, what do you say then? I'm not a TCU bandwaggoner, I just hate the BCS. TCU needs the chance to play the big boys to determine the national championship. They did their job this year in winning every game, can't do anything else. I agree with Oregon and Auburn being in the title game, on paper they had a much better season than TCU. But what sucks is that TCU doesn't even get the chance to play them to actually figure this thing out.

I was actually rooting for TCU, and the way Wisc ran up the score on people like Indiana is the reason.

But let's get real here. Wisconsin was about to RUN them out of the stadium. In the last few minutes of the game, Ball was running right over TCU, and the only thing the Frogs could hope for was that the Badgers didn't get that 2-point conversion. If Ball had been able to play the whole game, the outcome would have been very different, and it wouldn't have been pretty.

TCU didn't win like a champion. They looked like David that was about to get killed by Goliath. TCU would have gone 0-5 against Oregon, Stanford, Auburn, LSU, and Alabama.

TCU didn't win like a champion. They looked like David that was about to get killed by Goliath. TCU would have gone 0-5 against Oregon, Stanford, Auburn, LSU, and Alabama.[/quote]

Well according to the Bible, David defeated Goliath; therefore, using your analogy, TCU would have won all those games...Just sayin'

coach d wrote:

TCU would have gone 0-5 against Oregon, Stanford, Auburn, LSU, and Alabama.

You know this how? Crap like this pisses me off.

coach d wrote:

I was actually rooting for TCU, and the way Wisc ran up the score on people like Indiana is the reason.

But let's get real here. Wisconsin was about to RUN them out of the stadium. In the last few minutes of the game, Ball was running right over TCU, and the only thing the Frogs could hope for was that the Badgers didn't get that 2-point conversion. If Ball had been able to play the whole game, the outcome would have been very different, and it wouldn't have been pretty.

TCU didn't win like a champion. They looked like David that was about to get killed by Goliath. TCU would have gone 0-5 against Oregon, Stanford, Auburn, LSU, and Alabama.

TCU doesn't belong with the big boys but when they win they didn't win good enough for your retarded ass. Just shut the F up and take what the BCS feeds you because you're an idiot.

haha YO wrote:You know this how? Crap like this pisses me off.

Coming from the DFW metroplex, I know that all the kids who go to TCU are rich spoiled brats who drive up and down University in the Land Rover that Daddy dearest bought them right before he signed their 40 grand tuition check. The school's academic reputation is laughable at best, unless you're in the market for a divinity degree.

We'll never know who the real NCAA NC is until the NCAA steps up and start brackets with 12 Conf Champs. The amazin part is that they want to keep the bowl games and supercede the bowl selection as the brackets progress.

The battle of the big Hollywood TV networks vs. small independent cable/satellite networks has already begun.

Already the Hollywood TV powers have pushed the formation of PAC-12 Super Conference with the top NCAA DI-A Football Teams in the nation in anticipation of Senator Orrin Hatch getting his BCS busting bill though Congress.

DI Athlete wrote:

Coming from the DFW metroplex, I know that all the kids who go to TCU are rich spoiled brats who drive up and down University in the Land Rover that Daddy dearest bought them right before he signed their 40 grand tuition check. The school's academic reputation is laughable at best, unless you're in the market for a divinity degree.

If 100% of what you say is true what does any of it have to do with the football team? They would lose to Auburn and Oregon simply because their student body is spoiled?