wazinwizard wrote:
What's next on the internet tough guy schedule? I think this is where you call me a coward while also letting me know that you are battle hardened.
Why don't you go back to the girl scouts and learn how to curtsy like a real man? I did 12 tours in the most battleful battle arenas in the world and if there is one thing that I know from battleful places, it's that ripping throats is a glorious pastime. Maybe our cross country runners could benefit from a little throat ripping.
wazinwizard wrote:
Our military personnel do the things they do so that others may have the freedom to make their own choices.
No, our freedom has nothing to do with anything our military has done in the past 50 years.
You think we would be able to live in our safe suburbs....and go shop at our malls.....and do all of the other typical American middle class crap if we didn't have a military? I'm not saying that they're actions over in foreign land give us protection and freedom, but certainly their existence does.
You specifically said anything our military has "done", so I'm not criticizing you, just clarifying what I meant.
Our freedom has nothing to do with any wars today. This time with the Muslims it's only genocide the US wants. The US hates the Muslims. Truman stole land in Palestine after WWII. In 2010 the Palestinians are fighting for their freedom from the US. US surrogates steal more existing homes and property in East Jerusalem from the Palestinians.
No, our freedom has nothing to do with anything our military has done in the past 50 years.The last justifiable war the US fought was the Civil War. Every war since the Civil War has been unnecessary. Rather the US policy of manifest destiny aka imperialism caused the victims to strike the US back in self-defense.
Pro's in every other sport get paid to go to their "World Championship" why not our runners?
WXC is not a major that's why. Neither is WIC and W1/2.
$ wrote:
He went to war because he was getting paid to do so. He desire to not go was obviously not strong enough to face the consequences of not going.
Correct. Everything we do is because we want to do it.
Jesus, I didn't say anything about war, all I said is that the fact that we have a military grants us freedom. You know, the whole, if they do something to us we will do something to them deal? Only on letsrun would a thread about world xc turn into a political conversation.
douglas burke wrote:
our military goes to war because they want to, it is an all volunteer military each and everyone in the military goes to war because they want to. we have the top military in the world no country can beat us. (vietnam beat us, but only politically, our troops won every battle)
with our runners, they also run voluntarily, the difference is there are 2 countries that are pretty certain to beat us and maybe 5 capable of beating us.
lets say we did send our best to lets say the world xc championships, our runners probably wont win and they may also lose their marketability, for example if ritz, solinsky, teg and rupp ran world xc and got 7th, 9th, 11th and 12th individually and 3rd as a team a great performance, absolutelely for people who know the sport.
but to the general public the reaction would be WOW there are runners in the world better than are best, so it would hurt their marketability.
as a fan, i want to see our runners run great and i find it annoying our runners (USA) dont compete in many big competitions, but i know it hurts their marketability to lose.
it looks better to have a runner win a marathon in 2:09 then to get 5th in 2:06
when bob kennedy ran 7:30 for 3k and 12:58 for 5k the americans records at the time, i was like he did great, and other people were like big deal he got 6th and 8th place, for the general public and for his marketability he would have done better by winning races in slower times against nobodies.
Day are not volunteer ass holds. We have to paying the mother f***er to fight. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$