Forced to pay health insurance for others!

I work in the service profession. Nothing grinds my gears more than walking into a house on a weekday morning, and there are 3 or 4 adults just sitting there watching TV. No job. They have medical benefits, health plan, and no self-pride what so ever.

Sounds like my Dad's old job at NASA Goddard. Nobody did any work there. They just lounged around and played ping pong at work. They had 5 people for every job. Dad retired and still gets his pension and works at IBM now. Dad works 10 times as hard at IBM as he did at NASA Goddard.

Forced to pay taxes that go to Israel to murder palestinians.

Not tired of this?

Both of you are idiots.This is just a bullshit red-herring, fear mongering, non-argument, the type of crap that is used by BOTH parties to help get their agendas passed."It's for the children! You don't want children dying in the street, do you?""If you don't support our legislation, will happen to your family!"It's worthless points of view like this that prevent us from getting anything done.If the cost of healthcare a problem? Yes. Is the fact that one person pays for another person's healthcare a problem? Yes. Is administering care to people in dire situations who may not have insurance also a problem? Yes.Maybe we could act like adults and find a real solution? Never mind, that's asking too much. Carry on with your dim-witted "discussion."

Jokey, the Dark Liberal wrote:

Exactly! When your daughters, mothers, grandmothers, sisters, bitches (female dogs), mistresses and maybe hoes are gang-raped, and bleeding in the ER, you Republitards, can laugh as they die from the denial of treatment for lack of insurance. This is your vision Republitards? Entertain us with tales of how this would never happen to a Republitard because they are so responsible they would never be caught uninusred? Is that the vision? Is that the reality?

Grays Anatomy wrote:

So when your daughter is kidnapped, raped, ends up at the ER unconscious and bleeding, with no insurance card on her we'll just ignore her and let her die in the hallway. That's what you want isn't it.

That is exactly what we HAVE NOW. Hospitals must serve everyone whether they can pay or not. If we are going to do that lets require THEM to get and pay for insurance.Offer them a cheaper insurance with a higher copay so they don't milk the system.

lol lol lol lol wrote:

What you describe is an "unfunded mandate."

If I were to pass a law insisting that all restaurants must serve people regardless of ability to pay, costs would go up, up, up...

If the average taxpayer has no health/dental/eyecare insurance nor pension plan then don't ask the average taxpayer to pay for gov't employees to have it. They should pay for it out of their own pockets like we have to. That goes for Obama, Boehner, Pelosi, Petreaus, Cheney, Bush, too, and all of those effing leeches.

You better take safety pin your insurance card and US passport to your pretty pink Justin Beiber panties on every run. I'll let you die without it if you end up in my Emergency Room.

Think U Foo ! wrote:

If the average taxpayer has no health/dental/eyecare insurance nor pension plan then don't ask the average taxpayer to pay for gov't employees to have it. They should pay for it out of their own pockets like we have to. That goes for Obama, Boehner, Pelosi, Petreaus, Cheney, Bush, too, and all of those effing leeches.

I really think you have a screwed up view of government employees...

I'm a government employee...

I do not have dental or eyecare insurance. I know some do but not most stop watching fox news...i do have basic insurance...mostly emergence room coverage...with a deductable of around 500 dollars...

Most private companies offer their employees more than I have.

I do have a Pension but its only 54 percent of my top earning years. I have to put in 6% of my own money to fund it. Most 401ks will do better than that if the employee fully funds it.

I have a masters. If I worked in the private sector with my degree I'd be making about 20k more than I do now.

What I trade off in benefits and pay I get back by the fact that I only have to work around 30 years before I can retire and I get a lot more job security.

Hey...I'll trade early retirment for more pay any day. But you'd have a hard time finding people to do some of these government jobs if you take away the smallest of benefits.

Once again what kind of person do you want running the military, collecting your taxes, shoot teaching your kids.

If you take a way the good thinks about being a government employee then you will probably get the kids who barly graduate college. Do you want those kids having control over our nuclear bombs.

That sucks. You should have Social Security and Medicare like we have and that's all. Anything else and you should pay for it yourself.

The Real UncleB wrote:

Forced to pay taxes that go to Israel to murder palestinians.

Not tired of this?

That's putting money to good use. How can you ever get tired of that?

Do you want those kids having control over our nuclear bombs.

Grays Anatomy wrote:

So when your daughter is kidnapped, raped, ends up at the ER unconscious and bleeding, with no insurance card on her we'll just ignore her and let her die in the hallway. That's what you want isn't it.

You left out, 'by a black guy'

SamuelAdams3 wrote:

I'm a free thinking conservative.

If you have a problem with the way your policy is run (including higher premiums) you should cancel your policy and go it alone.

What? You don't want to do that? Because you might get cancer and not be able to afford the treatments without the help of others who don't have cancer?

Oh, I see. Relying on others is ok when you do it. Just not when people poorer than you do it.

Just try to keep in mind that there is a difference between people agreeing to pool resources to depend on in the case of an emergency, and the government forcing people to do the same.

easy wrote:

If you have a problem with the way your policy is run (including higher premiums) you should cancel your policy and go it alone.

What? You don't want to do that? Because you might get cancer and not be able to afford the treatments without the help of others who don't have cancer?

Oh, I see. Relying on others is ok when you do it. Just not when people poorer than you do it.

I want insurance. Its responsible to have insurance. But my medical costs are high because of all the leeches who won't buy insurance but then go to the ER for treatment. In a sense I am paying for their insurance.Everybody should be MADE to buy insurance! Make it cheaper, high copay sothey don't milk the system but make them buy.

easy wrote:

SamuelAdams3 wrote:

I'm a free thinking conservative.

If you have a problem with the way your policy is run (including higher premiums) you should cancel your policy and go it alone.

What? You don't want to do that? Because you might get cancer and not be able to afford the treatments without the help of others who don't have cancer?

Oh, I see. Relying on others is ok when you do it. Just not when people poorer than you do it.

In many respects I am for the Obama health care plan but without the give aways.

What give-a-ways do you imagine are in the current plan?

The WTC workers are bloodsuckers trying to rip off US Taxpayers for $1Billion. I'm glad the Tea Party and GOP has stopped the leeches from using the 9-11 Deaths as a phony sympathy ruse to cheat us out of more money that we don't have. NYPD, FDNY, NYFD and the Unions have sucked the last drop ofg blood from our dead for the last time. NO YOU AIN'T GETTING SHIT NYPD, FDNY, NYFD and the Unions, YOU DAMN BLOODSUCKERS !

Uncle C wrote:

The Real UncleB wrote:

Forced to pay taxes that go to Israel to murder palestinians.

Not tired of this?

That's putting money to good use. How can you ever get tired of that?

Thank the Lord you Zionist dupes aren't racists