Will dyestat ever recover?

milesplit is beast mode!!

Former statter wrote:

So, why did they even buy it? Just to bury it? Why pay money for something and then lose all your fan base. It doesn't make sense.

Yes, to bury it.

People communicating is a threat to the idiots who think they rule everything.

how does one go about deleting all old posts so that he can hope to one day get a job?

I know John and Donna Dye, and I knew them before Dyestat was huge. It is well documented they started the site because both of their children were track and field athletes. It started as a Md only site, and just grew. John was a retired government employee, he was not in it for the money.

He was nothing more than devoted father, and fan of the sport. He can't help it his idea grew. If you actually met him you wouldn't say a bad thing about him.

casual commentary wrote:

And tracktalk (or is it talktrack? I forget) BLOWS.

I tend to post on letsrun more often than tracktalk but I participate on both. From what I've observed, tracktalk has delivered everything it said it would and remained consistent since the Dye departure. They restored dyestat's message board. Maybe not entirely but the final product looks like an exact replica of dyestat.

No supplementary content though. But, meh, who read dyestat's content anyway? I don't go to tracktalk for strong editorial content. Nor did I go to dyestat for that. I went there to have fun and talk about elite track and cross country times.

I'd much rather a site not have editorial content than sites like milesplit who have managed to freckle their blogs with diarrhea.

BC Sports was the target buy not one of it's smaller holdings ie Dyestat.

Former statter wrote:

So, why did they even buy it? Just to bury it? Why pay money for something and then lose all your fan base. It doesn't make sense.

different opinion wrote:

... managed to freckle their blogs with diarrhea.

masterfully turned phrase.

I WILL steal and use it!!!

ESPN Rise is going places. Letsrun and schmacktalk are not.

business unusualist wrote:

BC Sports was the target buy not one of it's smaller holdings ie Dyestat.

Former statter wrote:

So, why did they even buy it? Just to bury it? Why pay money for something and then lose all your fan base. It doesn't make sense.

I know. I get it. Disney never wanted Dyestat, right?

What I don't get is the lack of business acumen which allows a company to purchase something, then allows the value of part of the purchase to go to near zero. Why not sell it instead while it still has some value?

There is a company called Illinois Tool Works which for years used a successful strategy for buying companies. They followed their version of the 80/20 rule. They looked deep into the acquisition's products and found the most profitable parts, which usually comprised about 20% of the company. That 20% often made about 80% of the profit.

So ITW would sell the weak 80% and hold onto the 20%, which was the real strength of the company anyway. Or ITW would simply fold up the portions of the company that were losing money if they couldn't find a buyer. Of course they took whatever they could get on the parts of the company that were not the 20% money makers.

How can Disney do anything but lose money on a website that has paid staff but virtually no traffic? Why couldn't Disney divest itself of Dyestat and hold onto the parts of BC Sports that were the most desirable, profitable and the reason for the purchase in the first place?

different opinion wrote:

casual commentary wrote:

And tracktalk (or is it talktrack? I forget) BLOWS.

I don't go to tracktalk for strong editorial content. Nor did I go to dyestat for that. I went there to have fun and talk about elite track and cross country times.

TT has a very heavy Nike bias and is probably run by Nike. If you look at the time period leading up to Footlocker Nationals, there are tens of threads about the NX meet but nothing about FL Nationals. In fact there are few people there, just a few stalwards and the rest are probably Nike employees. It is a worthless site. I went there a few times but it was like trying to dribble a flat ball in the ocean.

another corporate clone wrote:

TT has a very heavy Nike bias and is probably run by Nike. If you look at the time period leading up to Footlocker Nationals, there are tens of threads about the NX meet but nothing about FL Nationals. In fact there are few people there, just a few stalwards and the rest are probably Nike employees. It is a worthless site. I went there a few times but it was like trying to dribble a flat ball in the ocean.

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Nike. Just do me already.

tracktalk.net is two kids, one in his moms basement and another in a college dorm Nike does not know tt.net exists.

First we are not talking money at all I doubt Dye even had $23dollars and 76 cents in the 'profit' column.

There is no market for Dyestat in a spin off sell.

ESPN rise Magazing division is just buying up the magazineshelf clutter so it stands alone as the go to place for HS athletes. Buying BC sports eliminated some of the other places that might attract HS athletes.

It is easy to sell crappy widgets if you are the only widget store around.

the site taking a lot of direction in the track world is

http://www.ustfccca.org/

nice interface, professional photography, organizational roots.

Another fanboy site from powerless coaches who can't get an elite gig. No videos. Crappy pics from retired cops and rich doctors. Just slaptogether job.

What about Runnerspace? What does everyone think of the potential there??

Runnerspace has good videos sometimes but it is impossible to find them on their site.

So I don't waste my time with them.