The main problem is that his 3:53 1500 is equal to about a 4:12 mile. That is an elite high school time, not a time for someone trying to be a top NCAA runner.
The main problem is that his 3:53 1500 is equal to about a 4:12 mile. That is an elite high school time, not a time for someone trying to be a top NCAA runner.
The real question is when magness plans on getting a standard for the trials. If he going to give it a go early this may not be a good sign. If he is going to wait until june to give it a go he's probably training smart. Either way this isn;t a good race, let's not sugar coat it.
maybe the kid has been SICK!!!!
He had to cut his miles because he was sick a few weeks and is probably building back up to where he was, making his legs not too fresh. He had a bad race, but he hardly washed up. Indoor he anchored a 4:03 1600m of a DMR during a 100+ mile week. When it's time to run fast, I'm sure he will.
Steve Magness isn't going to do anything by outdoor, Did he do anything by the end of cross country season last year. As I recall he wasn't even close to qualifying for nationals. I was at the rice meet, it wasn't humid, It was 70 degrees and at 8:00 at night with absolutly no wind. Steve Magness fell off the media loop pretty fast since highschool because he hasn't done anything all year. Many of you claim he ran certain times in relays which means absolutly nothing, He is running 3:54, there is no way he will get down to 4:40 by the end of the year. especially running for Rice university.
yeah. rice can't ever be good. i mean their own coach ran sub-four and he went to rice. how could they ever produce a good mid-distance runner, let alone someone who could break 4:40. i mean, 11th place in xc regional's isn't even close to qualifying and he even did that as a true freshman. why doesn't he just give up. that 4:03 split was just the running community's collective imagination. it really was just another 4:40.
Southern Dirt wrote:
Steve Magness isn't going to do anything by outdoor, Did he do anything by the end of cross country season last year. As I recall he wasn't even close to qualifying for nationals. I was at the rice meet, it wasn't humid, It was 70 degrees and at 8:00 at night with absolutly no wind. Steve Magness fell off the media loop pretty fast since highschool because he hasn't done anything all year. Many of you claim he ran certain times in relays which means absolutly nothing, He is running 3:54, there is no way he will get down to 4:40 by the end of the year. especially running for Rice university.
This is the problem with american distance running, we expect results imediately. If we let our young promasing runners to develope and become the runnersthey can be we could be doing a whole lot better on the international scene. We put so much pressure on kids like webb and ritz and magness to be our stars right away. Let them develope, they will do fine let them worry about NCAAs not the olypimics yet. In all seriousness do we actually believe ritz while an awesome runner is capable of running in Anthens and winning a medal. He is not at that stage yet i think. Anyway its just my two cents.
I believe Magness was 1 place from going to XC Nationals as an individual.
standard? wrote:
The real question is when magness plans on getting a standard for the trials. If he going to give it a go early this may not be a good sign. If he is going to wait until june to give it a go he's probably training smart. Either way this isn;t a good race, let's not sugar coat it.
Are you serious? I am a Magness fan but I don't think he has given any indication that he could possibly be seriously planning on making the trials.......
Maybe the problem is that Steve Magness is an arrogant runner who still thinks he is a bad ass. And people like you worship the ground he walks on, when he hasn't done shit in college yet. Im personally glad he got 4th at the rice meet, looking like a fool in his own town is what that brat deserves.
i really don't care if everyone who loves the guy so much is right and he does run 3:40 or hell 3:35 for that matter, i hate how he has all these bad races and everytime that someone says something you people who think ooh, steve posts so he's cool like me, have to get all offended. I haven't seen this weekend's results so i don't know what other guys are running right now for 1500m. I do know that magness ran 3:54 and for some reason everyone wants to get pissed when people go, wow, he ran shitty. HE FUCKING DID, get over the guy, he's a good runner, he ran 4:01 so yes, a 3:54 is shit for him and people want to know what's up. I really didn't have a problem with the guy until he started racing bad a lot and the reason i started to have a problem then is because when it was questioned you idiots had to get all offended. the only other thing i'll say is that the 4:03 that everyone has talked about indoors that's bs. he got the stick 2 or 3 seconds in front of taylor of arkansas and i'll have to check the results but i think finshed 3 or 4 back, so that's at least 5-7 seconds and taylor ran like a 4:01. i gotta call bs on whoever claims that magness ran 4:03.
Acolyte.....If I decide to talk Shit, then I will and can....And if you read my post, we could have clearly seen, that i didn't "trash talk" him. I simply stated an opinion. And if you don't like it, then go cry about it...
nice job wow, i can see you are a frequent reader of his logs, hmmmmmmm. i just checked and saw that ark ran 9:31.26 and rice ran 9:36.32, so that's just over 5 seconds which would put taylor at a 3:58 or better if they had gotten the stick at the same time, but i know that rice was at least 2 seconds ahead at the exchange, did taylor run 3:56, if so than johnny mac after all these years is having a really difficult time reading a stopwatch, because that's slightly different than a 4:01, my guess is that johnny mac was right and magness actually ran 4:08. he was rigging up on the last lap.
I was at the Rice meet too, and it's in Houston, it's always humid in Houston! I'm pretty sure running 3:53 would satisfy the 4:40 requirement.
Dear Doped Up,
I wasn't making excuses. Do you always miss the point? Maybe that name you have is more than appropriate.
Southern Dirt wrote:
Steve Magness isn't going to do anything by outdoor, Did he do anything by the end of cross country season last year. As I recall he wasn't even close to qualifying for nationals. I was at the rice meet, it wasn't humid, It was 70 degrees and at 8:00 at night with absolutly no wind.
You really ARE an idiot if you think it wasn't humid Friday night during that 1500. Go back to your padded cell and be a good boy now.
If you want to blaim Steve's shitty race on the so called "Humidity" at houston, then I guess the 3 people that beat him should take seconds off their times' as well(even though they were close to P.R.'s if not a P.R.) Magness took the Race out in 58 and died,
I clearly wrote what happened at the Rice meet and all the Magness Groupies get all offended. I am sorry that Steve is having a shitt season and that he probably won't qualify past the first round at nationals(if he even makes it), but people when you talk about Magness like he is the God of track, people are going to point out that he is in fact only human and is vulnerable to getting beat by average runners.
jeez, guys, the man was sick a few weeks ago and is running over 110 miles a week! Just wait til his coach wants him to run fast, bring his mileage down to double digits, and actually do some hardcore track workouts as opposed to hills or fartleks (which he is running currently along with other intervals) and i bet the kid does well at the trials.
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you're right - you weren't making excuses. just that in one thread you claimed his "bad" race was possibly:1. the result of being injury prone:
I believe Steve has been rather injury prone in the past and only was really healthy his senior year in high school.
2. the result of the coach's training to save him for later:
Maybe he or the coach is being cautious to preserve his career and build a stroner base.
3. the result of being slow to develop at the next level:
Secondly, some guys take time to develop at the college level. After all, who would have predicted Sean Jefferson winning the NCAA mile?
4. the result of his intense studies at a university that is more academically challenging than even the great notre dame,. and anyway, maybe he decided there is more to life than running:
And by the way, this is Rice University, one of the country's most academically challenging schools. Maybe Steve doesn't want to be a pro runner. I know Molly Huddle at Notre DAme has talked about the difficulties of classwork and ND is presumably an easier place. Maybe Steve doesn't share our one-sided enthusiasm for his career.
no excuses i could find. but i usually miss a lot of stuff.