So Lagat tells the world last year that he wants to move up to the 5k, do more mileage, and contend with bekele.
Now, early in the season, he loses to an 800m specialist.
You guys care more than lagat does, I'll care about a July 5000 where lagat's in the 12's, yet again.
The Saint wrote:
Geez, Lagat gets beat by a guy who was on the Kenyan Olympic team in the 800m and now he should hang 'em up because he's done? Only on Letsrun...
Granted Lagat is pretty old for a 3K runner.
He's training primarily for the 5000 from now on, he's doing much more 5k oriented workouts with Abdi such as 10 milers in 58 minutes at 7000ft! He also has stated that he wants to run some 1500s/miles cause they do have benefits for his speed.
The Saint wrote:
Geez, Lagat gets beat by a guy who was on the Kenyan Olympic team in the 800m and now he should hang 'em up because he's done? Only on Letsrun...
You don't know where Bernard is in his training cycle. If he started a 10 week cycle right after World Indoors, he wouldn't be sharp right now.
But this is what happens when you fart around with that mileage crap. Lagat is a guy who doesn't do well with high mileage--so says his coach, Dr. Li. Lagat has won FOUR medals in the last two world outdoor championships and made the mileage proponents here and elsewhere look like the loser jerks they are, and many people coaching middle distance, myself included, have learned from him and adopted some of his methods.
He experiments once with this slow mileage crap (and for HIM, 10 miles in 58 minutes is SLOW), and you see the results.
People on letsrun should be learning from Lagat (but they don't want to work that hard) not the other way around.
Lagat can be beaten when he is not hammering the speedwork, as Webb found out a few years ago around nationals. But he will be ready when the Euro season comes around.
And then you pace races. (David Krummenacker)
Much of Lagat's training advantage comes from hard runs in the 5-8 mile range, and this is what US coaches are learning from. If he replaces these with longer, slower, runs, the preparation may not be there.
There is no shame in finishing a quarter of a second behind Boaz Lalang.
what?? wrote:
Boaz Lalang beats him by .24 seconds!
http://www.nmnathletics.com/fls/15700/livestats/Relays/10/index.htm?&SPSID=71588&SPID=8142&DB_OEM_ID=15700
correct. Lagat has just started training again (after a break from Indoors) and gets beat by a top notch 800 meter guy, and of course everyone is calling it the end. As someone else said, only on LetsRun. Lets see what happens in June, July, August
When Smith finished up, I thought to myself "what is Bernie doing leading?". I've seen a hundred of the guy's races, and he rarely leads before the final 200, and almost never before 400 out.
He seemed to be kind of "Dinkin' around", maybe for tactical practice, I don't know.
I think he may think you're an idiot because if every runner who lost a race moved up or hung them up there would be no left for you to criticize on let'srun!
How exciting!!! Races with only one person in them!!! Now, everyone can be correct in the let'srun pre-race polls!!!!!
lol you like exclamation points, huh?
When Bernard tosses consecutive races for a year or two, then he should think about switching pace. But to lose one race by a quarter second to another very talented up and coming athlete really means little.
This doesn't even qualify as an upset. Lalang's seriously world class, as we should all now.
Kenyan/USA wrote:
And why am I an idiot?
Because deciding that Lagat needs to move up in distance because of a race at the Drake Relays makes you an idiot.
Thanks for participating and proving the poster pointing out your idiocy's point.
what?? wrote:
This is a great day for white distance fans!
lol.
Put the results up - I can't be bothered slogging through that load of micky mouse events
Didn't Lagat get beat indoors last winter then go on to win the Indoor WC - when it mattered!
Didn't Lagat get beat indoors last winter then go on to win the Indoor WC - when it mattered!
no he won
also lagat IS moving up in distance. there were whole articles on him last year, he is focusing on the 5k for the 2012 olympics (maybe even 10k), and then after he will move up to the marathon (no joke, look it up)
duckshirt wrote:
Didn't Lagat get beat indoors last winter then go on to win the Indoor WC - when it mattered!no he won
also lagat IS moving up in distance. there were whole articles on him last year, he is focusing on the 5k for the 2012 olympics (maybe even 10k), and then after he will move up to the marathon (no joke, look it up)
'no he won' No he lost at 1500m then won the WC
As for moving up in distance I didn't make any comment on that
Lasse Viren lost races ALL THE TIME. Even leading up to the Munich Olympics.
Frank Shorter said: "Everyone beats Lasse, but no one beats Lasse at the Olympics"
while not exactly true, it's good to keep in mind.
Who cares if Lagat lost today? He'll be ready when it counts.