KnowItAll wrote:
Wake me when this happens to a program that matters at all.
Not sure that any track program matters. Maybe Oregon, given the publicity and coverage they get. Just about anybody else could cut their track program and only the track geeks on this board would care.
Wouldn't West Virginia's Men's program be considered a big time program when it got cut?
Mr. Obvious wrote:
KnowItAll wrote:Wake me when this happens to a program that matters at all.
Not sure that any track program matters. Maybe Oregon, given the publicity and coverage they get. Just about anybody else could cut their track program and only the track geeks on this board would care.
QU is to blame here. You won't find ANY female athletes hating on title IX. Why? Because the NCAA did not even HAVE women's championships until 1982. Gender inequality in our sport is shameful, and until we change our act, we have no right to whine about title IX.
The women's steeple and pole vault were not Olympic events until very recently. Likewise, the women's 10000m has only been contested at the Olympics since 1988! We still have the heptathlon for women (because they are too weak to do ten events, right?), and cross-country distances are significantly different. It is all born out of the thought that women are inherently frail, and that training hard is not "ladylike."
We still have a long ways to go towards gender equity in our sport. If you all want to do something about this, how about you write a letter to your own AD expressing concern over gender equity at your own school. If ADs sorted these things out, we wouldn't have to cut these programs.
A couple of things...there were National Championships for women before 1982...they were sponsored by the AIAW..The NCAA saw they could make money with women's basketball so they offered free women membership to universities that men’s programs belong to the NCAA.
Also, Olympic sports have to do with how many countries offer the sport or event.
Until distance runners unite and speak out and get donors to hold back money to universities, write letter to universities presidents and trustees, get the public involved and make race an issue (as track and field is one of the most diverse programs) this will happen again and again…
Voice of Reason wrote:
Where is the jackass who a few months ago was defending Jack McDonald saying how he was a track guy at heart and was very supportive of the team. My question is "where is your messiah now?" The guys a bumb. Hate to say it but I told ya! Dude sold you all down the river. For Shame.
Before you go pointing the finger at someone you should get your facts straight. Jack had very little to do wih this. infact he was one of the only ones who warned cutting volleyball (or anything else) in the first place. Obviously you dont know jack shit about the situation.
apparently the QU volleyball team did not know that QU would eliminate another team when they sued the school
HOW COULD THEY NOT KNOW?????? QU HAD TO ELIMINATE 3 PROGRAMS AND WHERE DID THEY THINK THE MONEY WOULD COME FROM WHEN VOLLEYBALL WAS REINSTATED....THE SKY???????
these girls are either selfish or idiots
one or the other.
Jaegabombs wrote:
Well heres the thing, if this keeps happening to the smaller schools someday it will happen to a major program.
That is illiterate logic.
NO
WVUUU wrote:
Wouldn't West Virginia's Men's program be considered a big time program when it got cut?
Mr. Obvious wrote:Not sure that any track program matters. Maybe Oregon, given the publicity and coverage they get. Just about anybody else could cut their track program and only the track geeks on this board would care.
If you were on the team that got cut it would matter!!!! When young men start running out of places to go to college to compete it is a shame.
KnowItAll wrote:
Wake me when this happens to a program that matters at all.
Uh, ever heard of James Madison???
volleyball suckssssss wrote:
these girls are either selfish or idiots
one or the other.
You think the track team wouldn't have tried to get itself reinstated if it got cut?
Um no in fact they didnt try to get themselves reinstated after the first time they had outdoors cut. Therefore, yes the volleyball team was selfish and not looking at the bigger picture and who they would ultimately effect.
777 wrote:
volleyball suckssssss wrote:these girls are either selfish or idiots
one or the other.
You think the track team wouldn't have tried to get itself reinstated if it got cut?
If it meant another team would be dropped they would think twice...
perhaps most depressing is they administration didn't even put up a fight. There must be a lot of issues embedded in that program they didn't want released to the public
as a member of the team im pretty pissed, i have nothing more to say to the administration, the last 12 years of my life have been adding up to my final moments which was swiftly taken right out from under my nikes....
i hate title 9, it makes me cringe to think of the bullshit and the feminism behind it all. "its ok to take away from the mens teams, cuz they are men and get everyuthing they want anyway"----title 9 logic
track is a way of life, any runner can agree, wether u hate my school or take a liking, this is a matter anyone can relate to, dreams being crushed without a fighting chance.
thanks vollyball, u better wion more than 5 games this year
No, please bring me up to date on their record at NCAA championships.
Martin van Buren wrote:
KnowItAll wrote:Wake me when this happens to a program that matters at all.
Uh, ever heard of James Madison???
Title IX is bull b/c women are always put in the right bc of the the past. I also disagree with many laws supporting minority scholarships and affirmative action. You're almost at a disadvantage if you are a white middle class male.
The real question I have is how cutting BOTH indoor and outdoor track affects the coaches. Do they take a HUGE cut in salary because they are only really coaching for three measely months.
Wow, the entitlement and incredible lack of perspective runs deep here.
LETS ALL GO TO QU VOLLEYBALL HOMEGAMES AND BOO AND THROW TOMATOES AT THEM!
Just wanted to bring this post to the end as it accurately captures everything and keeps it short and sweet