york training

greenliner, moving from nat'l to palmer?

i assume you must know john durkin fairly well.

greenliner wrote:

Stanrunner, do you remember? And Stanrunner, are you Donald?

I doubt it as he said,

"I graduated from York in 1998 and was fortunate enough to be able to run with Sage for two years."

And also mentions Sage first as one of the great York runners. I know that Donald is not that boastful.

does newton also coach the girls ? and if he does why are they so bad?

are there any programs out there that have good boys and girls teams?

Yep. Moving out of my administrative position at National to take a position as a researcher in the Palmer Center for Chiropractic Research, starting in just over a week. And sure, I know Dr. Durkin, though not well. And of course, that can't be Sage, given his comment- he would have to be 2 years younger than Donald. And Don is indeed modest.

Newton does not coach the girls and never has. But why say they are horrible? In the past 5 years, they have been state champs and runners up a few times. Maria Cicero is a York runner. At one point, York had 4 D1 all-Americans in Sage, Cicero (Boston College), Jim Costello (throws, Iowa) and Kyle Erickson (hurdles, UCLA). This year did not go well for the girls, though, truly.

greenliner wrote:

And of course, that can't be Sage, given his comment- he would have to be 2 years younger than Donald. And Don is indeed modest.

actually, if he graduated in 98, then wouldn't he be 2 years older than don? oh, and about the 3 mile time trials, i heard that sage was around 13:54 or something like that. do you remember, greenliner?

My bad- read it wrong. I recall Bakken running around 13.54, and I just checked with my kids, in visiting now, and they say yes, Don ran around that time as well. Let's see, though, if Stanrunner graduated 2 years before Sage that would make him a member of the team at the time my kids were captains. So, who can this be? Cioni would be Prinrunner, Akita would be Elmrunner, T Moore would be Westilrunner, Pebble would be Ilrunner, Launius would be Westmichrunner, LOL- I could go on but will save you all the trauma.

Have a happy holiday, everyone, a Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

Had a chance to talk to Coach Newton just a couple of days ago (he was in visiting- Stan Reddell is the coach). The current track team has 9 kids who can run the 3200 faster than 9.40; it has 8 who can go faster than 9.35. I know some d3 teams who don't have that many runners who can run 3200 in 9.40!

??? wrote:

are there any programs out there that have good boys and girls teams?

Rockford (Michigan) and Bingham (Utah) are top-notch both ways

Greenliner,

In a post you mentioned Pete Reiff. I have a book entitled "The Long Green Line" by Joe Newton. This book is pretty old. It is the detail of that "magical" year (1968) as Newton puts it. Well Pete Reiff was the man that year. How and when did he pass??? Just curious. Thanks.

Pete Reiff, who was at the time of his death a teacher and the head xc/track coach at Hoffman Estates HS in the western Chicago suburbs, died unexpectedly at a relatively early age from, I believe, heart failure. Coach Reiff, who used to come to York meets on his own time when he could, was a genuinely nice fellow. He was one more person who had been so positively influenced by Newton, and who went into teaching and coaching for a livelihood. He died around a year and a half ago.

Reply to greenliner:

Though he may have calculated "summer" differently back then, I know that Newton's 1968 team (as detailed in The Long Green Line) had the usual 20 or so boys at 1000+ miles, with Ed "Brother Ed" Wagner leading at 1800! His younger brother, if I remember correctly, "only" had 1400-1500.

Even in three full months, 1800 is a lot of mileage; if we're talking a "summer" of nine weeks or so, then I am *deeply* impressed (although Gerry Lindgren famously ran 1680 in eight weeks, with a lot of quality--that may have been the summer after his senior year, however).

[quote]greenliner wrote:

Hey, how long did it take? :-) I could always have posted under another name, but I appreciate the York runners. Bad news is I am moving out of state next week, and will have to become familiar with the Iowa HS teams. Here I come, Davenport. Oh well, at least I have a good friend at Dubuque Senior HS only 40 miles away.

screw debuque senior, how about cedar falls, 2 time defending state champions!!!!! oh yeah