I know that york has the famous 1000 mile club, but do they have fresh/soph doing that?Did Don Sage do that much while he was there? Does anyone have a sample week of there summer base?
I know that york has the famous 1000 mile club, but do they have fresh/soph doing that?Did Don Sage do that much while he was there? Does anyone have a sample week of there summer base?
Joe Newton has a book out that details the week by week training for the team, although it doesn't go into much detail for the summer. I am sure Greenliner will be here before long to comment.
I graduated from York in 1998 and was fortunate enough to be able to run with Sage for two years. The 1000 mile club usually doesnt begin to your sophomore year. As a freshman, there is a 300 mile club. Sage was doing many of the same workouts with the upper classman, but would cut back on some on the intervals. A sample week contains a 25 quarter workout, a 5 mile repeat workout, then two days of distance recovery time adding up to around 2 hours each day. One day would be a fartlek variation, Saturday is a hill workout then whatever you felt like on Sunday. Tough tough, but thats why York is the best and always will be.
Were these workouts killer or was it the accumulation of fatigue that got to you?
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So is that just summer running between the end of school and the start of practice in the fall? It'd be fun to know who holds the summer mileage record at a school like that.
On a related note, what would everyboyd's all-time York team be? I would start with Bakken, Sage, and Cioni. Any other candidates?
Craker ..??
An all time York team could be the year they won State with like 23 points I believe. But definitely..Sage, Bakken, Cioni, Craker, Jim White, Macnamera, and Palumbo. Could throw Roche in the mix or Dave Walters.
Hey, how long did it take? :-) I could always have posted under another name, but I appreciate the York runners. Bad news is I am moving out of state next week, and will have to become familiar with the Iowa HS teams. Here I come, Davenport. Oh well, at least I have a good friend at Dubuque Senior HS only 40 miles away.
Stanrunner has it right- the 9th graders run 300 miles their first year (between 8th-9th grades) and do not step up to the 1000 mile club until the next year. So seniors will have run around 3300+ summer miles if they do this each year. As for the record, in all seriousness my son Collin likely holds it at 1311 miles between 10th and 11th grades- his brother skipped one day to visit U IL on a college visit and ended up with 1298. Don Sage never went over around 1100 miles in the summer.
Wearing a 3000 mile club t-shirt must give thought to opposing teams.
Top York runners would be Sage, Bakken, Jim White, Ron Craker as the way above the rest top 4- past that I would add Pete Cioni (ran 1/55/4.11/9.11), Mike Lucchesi, Hambone (Srinu Hanumadas), Mike Marotta, and in the past maybe the late Pete Reiff. Adam Palumbo ran a 9.06. Sean McNamara has real potential- let's see how his final year goes in track.
My question is, what is considered "summer"? June, July, and August only? Does "summer" start immediately after the state meet (which may be early May depending on the state)? And when does it end - when school starts, first official CC practice, etc.? The point is, there is a big difference between running 1000 from June 1 till August 31 (average about 76 per week) and running 1000 from May 8 till August 31 (about 60 per week). What is considered "summer" at York?
We used to have 13 weeks for summer (not at York) but we had a few guys over 1100 miles in the summer. South Louisiana is a bit harsher than York's summer environment.
The York summer usually starts around mid June and goes through mid August when official practice begins. If you do the full workouts and do a respectable run on Sunday you are easily over 100 miles a week. What I didn't mention above is that there is afternoon practice Mon-thurs, which the top guys attend where they do around 3-4 miles. Plus throw in 30-50 striders after a run once a week, trust me York does it hardest and best.
Stanrunner wrote:
trust me York does it hardest and best.
it's cool that you like your alma mater and support it, but come on man, don't be so cocky. high school's over, let it go
30-50 striders after a run?????
Coach Newton calculates the summer miles from the beginning of the summer running program, which begins after school ends- usually around June 15, until the beginning of the formal cross country season, which is usually around August 18-20. So you are looking at big miles during those couple of months. The top runners do run 2 times daily, usually the long run/practice with the team in the morning and then an additional run on their own in the afternoon. My kids would usually run around 5-8 miles or so in the afternoon runs, on top of the 12-15 from the morning. They also ran Sundays as well, on their own. Longest single training run they ever did was 22 miles. Not too many teams have kids running these kinds of distances. And they do so willingly.
Sorry, didn't mean to sound cocky, just proud of the program that helped me begin my running career.
This sounds like what JK did the last two years of high school. The summer before his 11th grade year, he ran 1503 miles in 14 weeks, which is about 107 miles per week. But the first 2 weeks were pretty low, so the last 12 weeks were probably about 115 per week. His highest week was 156 that summer. He also did 2-a-days most days and even had a few 3-a-days in there. He says his longest run in high school was 22 miles.
He's always said there were others who did this kind of stuff and that he wasn't as crazy as we think!
Hey greenliner,
What kind of times did you post in high school under Coach Newton?? What about your sons?
To all the duke's out there...
I have heard of the three mile track time trials...what are the all time best times? Sage? Bakken? Cracker? what would the top 5 usually average for this?
Just curious. The York tradition is amazing and I truly respect Mr. Newton.
Thank You