Phrases you don't hear about Iraq anymore

No, he's trying to cutely point out a useless and very trite factoid to embellish his point of view, as if though we are all feeling a tremendous amount of financial pain, which just simply isn't true. And frankly, whether one believes in this particular cause or not, there's often a much higher and immeasurable cost to be paid by not going to war. The propaganda just gets so stale on both sides of the aisle really.

Weapons of mass destruction.

Sagarin wrote:

And frankly, whether one believes in this particular cause or not, there's often a much higher and immeasurable cost to be paid by not going to war.

Please elaborate in regards to the "higher and immeasurable costs" of not invading Iraq.

yoda wrote:

232 years ago, we were asking for help anywhere we could get it. the founding fathers would have been ecstatic had a world superpower offered to drive the british out of america and help to set up an autonomous democratic government controlled by american citizens (which is what we're trying to do, whether we're actually succeeding or not)

Yoda, it's sad to see you've gone to the dark side. Have you not noticed the massive US Embassy we have built? This war is about access to oil. If it was about promoting democracy and removing a brutal dictator, we would have been in Rwanda, Burundi, Sudan, Uganda... the list goes on. But none of those nations had a supply of oil large enough to make some of us willing to forget our principles.

Hind sight is 20,20 Vision.

Congratulations for realising the obvious Years after us

Idiots told you so.

The best 'real' phrase you never hear:

President Saddam Hussein

Debaathification

"emboldening"

"Donald Rumsfeld"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7053-2004Oct4.html

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Prior to the war, the Army chief of staff, Gen. Eric K. Shinseki, said publicly that he thought the invasion plan lacked sufficient manpower, and he was slapped down by the Pentagon's civilian leadership for saying so. During the war, concerns about troop strength expressed by retired generals also provoked angry denunciations by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Gen. Richard B. Myers, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Osama Bin Laden

to alan wrote:

Yea Alan. If Poland didnt like that Hitler had invaded they should have had a revolution and thrown him out. And those Jews should have had a revolution if they didnt like being killed. I hate lazy people who dont overthrow people with infinitely more power than them.

Not supporting War in Iraq

poland was/is a western christian culture.

Iraq is a bunch of muslim sects at each others' necks. We don't understand their culture, and frankly, most of us don't give a shit if they want to keep killing each other.

there is no point helping those who won't help themselves.

unless we need their oil. then we'll make it look like we're helping them, when in fact we are just destabilizing a region that will never be at peace and productive.

Keep giving those Sunni militias our U.S. dollars...that won't come back to bite us!

DON'T FORGET POLAND!

to alan wrote:

Yea Alan. If Poland didnt like that Hitler had invaded they should have had a revolution and thrown him out. And those Jews should have had a revolution if they didnt like being killed. I hate lazy people who dont overthrow people with infinitely more power than them.

Maybe you haven't noticed that the invastion of Poland provoked the US to do... nothing. The US entered WWII more than two years after the invasion of Poland, in response to the bombing of Pearl Harbour, which was a direct military attack on US soil.

center of the war on terrorism

roboto wrote:

quagmire

No, you still hear that one.

ethnic cleansing

Mainly, because it is done. The out-migration and internal migration of Sunni and Shia to different neighbor hoods or areas is nearly complete. Plus, many of the killings taking place in Baghdad are being reclassified as criminal rather than sectarian.

Additionally, the return of Iraqis from Jordan to Iraq is being hailed as evidence of success for the surge when in actually it has more to do with Jordan not allowing refugees to work there, and other Arab states not allowing the Iraqis in.

sc42 wrote:

Maybe you haven't noticed that the invastion of Poland provoked the US to do... nothing. The US entered WWII more than two years after the invasion of Poland, in response to the bombing of Pearl Harbour, which was a direct military attack on US soil.

And we didn't even declare war on Nazi Germany, they declared war on us after we declared war on Japan.

Didn't the British have "infinitely more power" than the Continental Congress? didn't stop them from having a little revolution.

Yep wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

Let's invade:

Cuba

North Korea

Iran

Venuzuala

Should I go on?

Just because a leader is corrupt and the people are suffering does not give us the right to go in there and "fix things". It is the citizens responsibility to fix things themselves via revolution.

Alan

Yeah! So if someone decides to burn down Alans house while his family suffers to death you damn firefighters better stay out. You have no right to "fix things" It's Alan responsibility to put out the fire via revolution.

but isnt it funny that alans house had some real valuable oil in its backyard and the people in alans house really weren't burning down his house in the first place. they may not have been the best house guests to have, but many houses on the block have their bad tennants. alans house was the only that had problems AND oil. so why not stand outside alans house with a fire truck and say, holy shit, people in alans house are ready to burn it down and then burn down your houses too! we got to go in there and stop this from happening. so they do. and it turns out that up stairs there are a few guys sitting around eating humus with their thumbs up eachother's asses- no matches or gasoline or stuff to burn houses down with. so we conveniently forget that no house fire materials were found, but these were some bad guys. when we stormed the place, they had their thumbs up eachothers asses! thats nasty. so ahh, ya, we run the house now and we got a say in what goes on with the oil in the back yard. to keep the neighborhood happy, we bring in a few responsible neighbors and ask them to help us 'watch over' the place too. meanwhile, some place jail cell in cuba is being over crowded with people who supposedly like to stick their thumbs up eachothers asses and if they had the chance, they would stick their thumb up yours too.

am i wrong here???

Prior to the war, the Army chief of staff, Gen. Eric K. Shinseki, said publicly that he thought the invasion plan lacked sufficient manpower, and he was slapped down by the Pentagon's civilian leadership for saying so.

Give us a break. You can't believe Shinseki, that little Jap heathen. Carl Rove and Rumsfeld are Born Again Christians and are whom W. Bush trusted at the time. America is a Christian nation afterall.