Ghost of Ashenfelter wrote:
somebody outta write that b*** wrote:she also told me that she has done it two or three times since.
That sounds like the drunk driver telling the cop he only had a couple of beers. Usually, such vagueness means the true number is really much higher.
no no, my bad. what i meant was that right now i cant recall if she said two times or three times. i dont remember her being vague
ok nancy reagan,I am certainly not saying anyone should use drugsbut you people need to get around more...some people (i'll bet a number on this board) actually have used drugs recreationally and not ended up an addict or dead... it is a risk and people now that when they try it.the fact that she told you about it, that is goodthe fact that it has been 2 or 3 times already, well that is not so good but if she is just experimenting it may turn out not to be that big of deali know the people on here will come back, with what - all drugs are evil and anyone who tries them should be shot but hey even our president had his cocaine days... many others tooexpress concern but don't judge, see where this is going
Len Bias wrote:
weeeeellll wrote:That stuff can kill you from using it once, not to mention how messed up drugs can make someone's life
I agree!!!
weeeeellll wrote:
I can't believe some of the people on here. That stuff can kill you from using it once
I can't believe what I am reading either. More people die every year from alcohol (or from running on the roads for that matter) than from using cocaine "once." The hyperbole in this thread is out of control.
To the OP: Some people can handle cocaine, and some can't. I have no idea which side your girlfriend falls on. I don't want to go too far downplaying the dangers of cocaine (which are real), but I will share that I had several friends who dabbled in cocaine while in college, and not a single one ended up addicted or messed up by it. Life is not like an ABC After School Special or the Lifetime Movie of the Week. As difficult it is for the immature, reactionary posters on this board to comprehend, there are a lot people who can occasionally use recreational drugs without destroying their lives.
Now, none of the above means you should ignore your GF's cocaine use. If, as the tone of your post implies, you are offended by this behavior on some fundamental level, then perhaps you need to end the relationship. But if you can lighten up a little, it might be better to just keep an eye on her and look for signs that she is going overboard. You should also consider expressing your concerns without going the route of issuing ultimatums or making it seem like you want to control her behavior.
Whatever you do, don't call her parents or notify school psychiatrists or any of the other nonsense being recommended in this thread. Your GF is an adult making choices. You might not like those choices--and you of course have the right to end the relationship--but I would not take dramatic interventionist steps unless there is actual evidence that she is seriously harming herself.
very good post Trollie, glad to see some rational people post on here
Trollie McSockpuppet wrote:
weeeeellll wrote:I can't believe some of the people on here. That stuff can kill you from using it once
I can't believe what I am reading either. More people die every year from alcohol (or from running on the roads for that matter) than from using cocaine "once." The hyperbole in this thread is out of control.
To the OP: Some people can handle cocaine, and some can't. I have no idea which side your girlfriend falls on. I don't want to go too far downplaying the dangers of cocaine (which are real), but I will share that I had several friends who dabbled in cocaine while in college, and not a single one ended up addicted or messed up by it. Life is not like an ABC After School Special or the Lifetime Movie of the Week. As difficult it is for the immature, reactionary posters on this board to comprehend, there are a lot people who can occasionally use recreational drugs without destroying their lives.
Now, none of the above means you should ignore your GF's cocaine use. If, as the tone of your post implies, you are offended by this behavior on some fundamental level, then perhaps you need to end the relationship. But if you can lighten up a little, it might be better to just keep an eye on her and look for signs that she is going overboard. You should also consider expressing your concerns without going the route of issuing ultimatums or making it seem like you want to control her behavior.
Whatever you do, don't call her parents or notify school psychiatrists or any of the other nonsense being recommended in this thread. Your GF is an adult making choices. You might not like those choices--and you of course have the right to end the relationship--but I would not take dramatic interventionist steps unless there is actual evidence that she is seriously harming herself.
Cocaine totally turned my life around. I used to be a total loser, never got laid, never did anything fun. Then I started rippin lines of coke, suddenly I was scoring with hot chicks and people love me now. I'm not saying coke will work for the weak, but good lord it has done me wonders. I thank God everyday that he created the coco plant for us to have fun with. Thank you God.
trollie,
How do you know his gf is an adult making decisions? What if she is 17, 16 or even 15? Does that still make her an adult?
And second off, by saying "life isn't like the abc special, etc etc" you are doing exactly what people do that is so so wrong. "I will never get aids, life isn't like that" or "that CAN'T happen to me, I won't get cancer, I won't die from drugs, I won't get in a car accident"
NOT TO ME...
Yea...so who does it happen to?
like it or not a 17 year old, 16 year old and 15 year old generally make their own decisions... in the end parents can only do so much and, especially at that age, kids will make their own choicesnow trollie isn't saying that - people are very aware that things could happen to them, very aware... still some people want to experiment, believe it or not, this guy's girlfriend may have been curious and may have made a completely informed decision knowing all the risks...life isn't black and white... believe it or not sometimes and some people have fun with drugs and are fortunate enough never to suffer severe consequences AND many of these people look back on their experimenting days fondly
umm... wrote:
trollie,
How do you know his gf is an adult making decisions? What if she is 17, 16 or even 15? Does that still make her an adult?
And second off, by saying "life isn't like the abc special, etc etc" you are doing exactly what people do that is so so wrong. "I will never get aids, life isn't like that" or "that CAN'T happen to me, I won't get cancer, I won't die from drugs, I won't get in a car accident"
NOT TO ME...
Yea...so who does it happen to?
Whether or not 15-17 yr olds are making their own decisions that isn't the point. The point is that they are still not ADULT decisions. Now this guys gf could be 35 for all I know. But 17 yr olds don't make adult decisions.
Kindly post her full name, date of birth, complete physical address, where the cocaine is kept, times she is likely to be at home and whether or not there are any weapons in her residence. Thank you in advance.
Man your post made me have some great memories. I used to snort coke like it was my last time. I'm not saying it was great to take coke. I'm saying the sex was the best and I'm still alive. That's saying something.
This whole thread is stupid. The answer is so simple.
If her drug use bothers you for whatever reason, and you can't see being with her because of it, then dump her ass. YOU get to decide if it's something you want to deal with or not, just like you get to decide if you want to be with her if she gains a ton of weight or she starts being mean or withholding sex...whatever.
People are not prudes if they disapprove of drug use. And to the poster who mentioned that more people are killed by alcohol, well no shit. WAY more people abuse alcohol because it is legal and readily available. How is that a measure of what is bad anyway? So, by that logic, I should go find someone with a couple of pit bulls and jump into their yard and start slapping them around a little. I mean, I'm sure more people have been killed by alcohol than by pit bulls.
Yes lots of people use drugs and never suffer any serious consequences, but a lot do also. I've got a cousin in prison for 10 years because he started with pot, moved to horse pain killers then making and distributing meth. Snorting cocaine is stupid. This guy wants to get rid of her because she's STUPID then he should. I would drop her like a bad habit.
George Washington invented cocaine:
if used carefully, cocaine is a great recreational substance.
however, very, very few can use it safely.
it can result in some serious (and a wide range of) physical and emotional side effects.
unless you think you want to marry this young lady, or you see it as your duty to 'save' her, get out now.
I generally side with the permissive people on this thread, though I think coke is a horrible drug that makes people act like jerks when they are high, and paranoid and irresponsible when they are dependent. It's ranges from very addictive to incredibly addictive, depending on the form you take it in. And the drug trade is evil.
Drug users rarely are evil, however. Being hysterical in your response probably won't help matters for anyone. Deal with it like an adult. Experimenting a few times will rarely hurt a person. Millions have done it and promptly quit without forming a habit. Lots more have been less fortunate, and many have ruined their lives and those of their loved ones, too. So I don't take it lightly. But there is a part of human nature that seeks out thrills, and lots of people get them with drugs/alcohol. That's life.
All that said, it seems very unlikely that you and your girlfriend can stick together. You think she's pathetic and she thinks you're puritanical. Probably best to part ways now.
dmb wrote:
Two side effects of coke are addiction and death.
Could say the same thing about caffeine!
If drugs aren't your bag, I'd get out of the relationship. You'd be asking for trouble yourself and make the girl have to make a difficult choice, so why even make it such an issue?
Cocaine is addicting (to some people), but it's not a lethal, crazy drug like some of you are making it out to be.
With all stimulants though, there's a rise and a comedown. Usually as time goes on, the comedown gets worse and worse (especially since so much cocaine is cut with speed/ephedrine/etc these days). So if your girl is calling you and sounds all depressed and pissy, that might be where she's at. Of course that happens over time, not using once or twice.
usually don't agree with FW, but he's right. Of course there are some people who use drugs recreationally and they don't get addicted or ruin their lives. But how can you know ahead of time whether they will go that route or head down a path of addiction and destruction?
Do you just wait around and see if the person gets addicted and, if they do, that's when you decide to confront them and get them help???? By then things could be really serious. And for alot of addicts, no amount of professional help can get them out of their addiction once it's full blown. The success rates in addictions treatment programs are abysmally small -- something like 10%. Early intervention is key.
So, even if there is the possibility that this girl will end up having no serious problems with coke, why would you take that chance and just let it go when you could confront the problem in its early stages by saying "I care about you and I won't let you risk your life with this stuff".
If she doesn't respond well to your confrontation and continues to use, I would recommend leaving her, even if you care about her. You could end up in a very bad situation otherwise.
"bitch, stay off that blow!" - outkast
It is one thing if your a guy and you want to do a bit of coke.. But girls cannot control it. Do you really want your loved one sucking some guys di** for a bit of coke on Wednesday morning? That is what it will come to. Just think of your loved one blowing some dude to get a fix on Friday night. I am not trying to be funny.
nc runner wrote:
usually don't agree with FW, but he's right.
While I agree with your entire post, I'll just comment on the part above of yours that I left...if only I had a nickel for the number of times people here have said that.