Ritz and Torres workout

Buster watch wrote:

Mottram ran 5x2000m in 5:22 (62/68/62/68/62) with a short rest yesterday, looking easy..that's a better workout in my books

Ok troll....thanks for letting us know that one of the best runners in the world can run a better workout then Ritz and Torres. Who would have guessed??

How come Jason Hartman didnt make the trip?

No, I was just using it for comparison sakes. I could share more about his worksouts, but Mrr82 has put me off. Good to know the Troll Patrol are doing their jobs.

if the workout is:

Could be. Record pace is 4:24 per mile. Which would mean the "floats" are at around 5:25-5:30 pace.

that is a pretty good workout. the 2000m 62-68-62-68-62 stuff is for pace changes. if the workout is above that is pace work, aimed at the 8k record attempt, you don't want the pace changes.

does anyone know if elites ever do things like 3 x 3200m at 10k pace. i've heard of people doing them at at-threshold with short rest but i wonder if anyone ever does them a goal pace.

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chitownrunner wrote:

Ritz ran 35:05 for a 12Km workout. 3Km pace/1Km float X3. He's ready to run a fast 8k. Jorge ran sub 36. Both look in control in these pictures.

http://tallahasseetrails.smugmug.com/gallery/2534821#133204243

In light of Jorge's race, and continuing with my post earlier in the thread: I call bullshit on this workout. The 35:05 12K of controlled running/floating is 23:23 8K pace. Talk about the NY race conditions, etc... but also remember that the 12K workout (50% longer than the 8K race) was at altitude.

Since when is Florida at altitude? They were in Florida working out!

Didn't they run it at sea-level in Tallahassee, Florida?

ttc wrote:

In light of Jorge's race, and continuing with my post earlier in the thread: I call bullshit on this workout. The 35:05 12K of controlled running/floating is 23:23 8K pace. Talk about the NY race conditions, etc... but also remember that the 12K workout (50% longer than the 8K race) was at altitude.

AS USUAL, ttc in a rush to say something stupid. Ritz did 35:05, Jorge did 36:00.

Geography question for ttc, what is the altitude of Jacksonville Florida?

Shut the f*** up.

Agent provocateur detector wrote:

AS USUAL, ttc in a rush to say something stupid. Ritz did 35:05, Jorge did 36:00.

Geography question for ttc, what is the altitude of Jacksonville Florida?

Shut the f*** up.

Crap, I have to read more carefully next time.

Buster watch wrote:

No, I was just using it for comparison sakes. I could share more about his worksouts, but Mrr82 has put me off. Good to know the Troll Patrol are doing their jobs.

No you were being a Troll. Please get a life and be an asshole somewhere else.

looks like that great workout did them both a whole ton of good. jorge got his arse handed to him and ritz didn't even make the starting line. left it on some no name track in florida....pity....

Thanks for the cross post to cover this. I said the same thing over on the 8K Champs thread.

osaka curious wrote:

looks like that great workout did them both a whole ton of good. jorge got his arse handed to him and ritz didn't even make the starting line. left it on some no name track in florida....pity....

Really? Torres is the National 10k Champion, preparing to defend his title. A 3 x 3000m with 1000 float in March is hardly "leaving it on the track."

Nationals are in June, silly girl.

"There are two phases to competitive distance running: preparation and execution. Both are equally important. Regardless of how much you have trained, if you do not “do it” on race day, no body cares how well you trained. Regardless of how well you can execute on race day, it is a function of how well you have prepared."

Blizzard of Karma wrote:

"There are two phases to competitive distance running: preparation and execution. Both are equally important. Regardless of how much you have trained, if you do not “do it” on race day, no body cares how well you trained. Regardless of how well you can execute on race day, it is a function of how well you have prepared."

I hope you don't think that race day is March 18th? Race day is June.

speedster wrote:

Didn't they run it at sea-level in Tallahassee, Florida?

Come on...there was likely a bridge or a causeway involved.

Torres - 8:0x 3K, Blown out in Boulder, Skipping the big dance, Blown out today.

Ritz - Blown up at NYC, Blown out in Boulder, Skipping the big dance, down for the count.

yeah you have to agree the hudson group didn't acomplish much after last summer on the track, where they did well (ritz 5k, 5k in europe, couple of nice 10ks ,torres 10k).

in thier defense they did say the weather in boulder interfered with thier training. that was the point of going down to FL for the high turnover workouts. so to summarize, in winter this group has done this stregth training they are so emphatic about but it hasn't translated into any winter results really.

you would think with ritz's profile, the "made for 4:50 pace"

and strength type stuff, you would want some results (sponsers or whatnot). instead he has done well at working down the 5000m time and putting up a couple of decent 10000m races.