Very tough to do some things when you get older (like peak at the right time) as your body doesn't recover the same from work-out to work-out and race to race. Sometimes you just crash, no warning.
I think Regina should think seriously about retiring. As much as I may like her as an older athlete, she hasn't been able to put it together for a whole season as an elite for a few years now. Maybe time to have some lower key fun.
Thank you Hadd- exactly the info I was after.
masters rnnr wrote:
Very tough to do some things when you get older (like peak at the right time) as your body doesn't recover the same from work-out to work-out and race to race. Sometimes you just crash, no warning.
I think Regina should think seriously about retiring. As much as I may like her as an older athlete, she hasn't been able to put it together for a whole season as an elite for a few years now. Maybe time to have some lower key fun.
In a similar vain but different sport. Martina Navratilova mentioned after she retired that she felt she could still play one match against the best and win or be very competitive but she could not come back and play the next match and this was due to the aging process.
So Ms. Jacobs has "aged". It really doesn't matter if she can run multiple races at her best. If she can just put together a few quality races a year, like she was still able to do this year (4:01), then why not continue....
She's a timeless, ageless, phenom athlete, and she will decide when it is time to retire.
It's not as if these athletes are like the rest of us, where it is easy to slide into oblivion - they haven't cultivated any careers outside of track, no kids, no pending fortune to be made post t&f. Regina does have an MBA and can probably make a decent living on the outside.
On her worst day, Regina is still the 2nd best 1500 runner in the U.S., and maybe the best at the 5000. Until this country's crop of "promising" young female runners actually developes, let's not rush the old gal into retirement just yet.
I was just quoting Regina herself. She has said many times she evaluates retirement on a seasonal basis and her health and ability to compete on the elite level is always her criteria as far as whether or not to continue at the elite level.
I never wrote she should just quit. I wrote it might be the time to do as she herself has said many times, scale it down and compete for fun.
Please read more carefully.
notice that jacobs has not run a 5000m since they started testing for EPO. her only efforts at anything longer than a mile have been within the 'protected' confines of the US (XC,indoor 2 & 3 miles, etc).
with the current state of testing,
i doubt if we will see her in the longer events.
why? because i suspect she will be significantly slower at the longer races and she will not take the risk of using it and competing internationally.
politically correct wrote:
She couldn't take getting spanked by Suzy again. You go girl!
No, but I can! Can I volunteer?
Did you know Suzy also does sideline commentary work for Monday Night Football? Just watch tonight... Suzy F'in Hamilton!
The man with the knowledge and perspective is back. Does anyone like Vipam? Sorry, anyway, not a surprise again as reported many times now in the past 6 wks by me about Suzy's fitness level. Suzy came over in shape focused and hungry after the problems earlier this summer. She has put together the best string of races by an American woman(distance) in a longggg time. No one since MS has went to Europe and competed the way she has and dropped as many fast times. Lets put this in perspective here-who the hell outside any US female sprinter has come over and ran this well in Europe and when was the last time? Regina came over ran 4:01 and so many people were on the wagon, now the only one left is Vipam-I give him/her credit for atleast staying with the drugged horse until the end. As for Regina and long season-so much is alwayyyyyyyys said about how good she is with the overdistance stuff so she should be stronger than these other ladies. Well FYI alot of athletes have had long seasons. While she was expermenting with steeplechasing and chasing very obscure records that no one cares about Suzy was in the Mad City with a plan to run fast when it counts, and she did. This is her best season ever-consistently fast. So I so look forward to next year when she plans for the time of the year when it counts again. I will take a loss at the US JV Champs to Regina now-you think she gives a crap that in June she was beat by Regina or that she just ran 5 smoking fast races in a row in EUROPE where the real runnersssss compete?
NOLIMIT
By shear chance I ran across your interesting post. Yes
I will stand behind any athlete I favor, as I would stand
behind anything I believe in. NoLimit your question in your post, "Does anyone like Vipam?" was pointless. I have
no agenda to attract or offend anyone on this site. You
don't have to like me, I still respect everyone on this site (even if I disagree with their opinions). I am a man,
NOLIMIT and my name is Mustapha and in the future if you
see either name on a post/thread than don't read it (as I
don't want to offend you).
Vipam
NOLIMIT wrote:
The man with the knowledge and perspective is back. Does anyone like Vipam? Sorry, anyway, not a surprise again as reported many times now in the past 6 wks by me about Suzy's fitness level. Suzy came over in shape focused and hungry after the problems earlier this summer. She has put together the best string of races by an American woman(distance) in a longggg time. No one since MS has went to Europe and competed the way she has and dropped as many fast times. Lets put this in perspective here-who the hell outside any US female sprinter has come over and ran this well in Europe and when was the last time? Regina came over ran 4:01 and so many people were on the wagon, now the only one left is Vipam-I give him/her credit for atleast staying with the drugged horse until the end. As for Regina and long season-so much is alwayyyyyyyys said about how good she is with the overdistance stuff so she should be stronger than these other ladies. Well FYI alot of athletes have had long seasons. While she was expermenting with steeplechasing and chasing very obscure records that no one cares about Suzy was in the Mad City with a plan to run fast when it counts, and she did. This is her best season ever-consistently fast. So I so look forward to next year when she plans for the time of the year when it counts again. I will take a loss at the US JV Champs to Regina now-you think she gives a crap that in June she was beat by Regina or that she just ran 5 smoking fast races in a row in EUROPE where the real runnersssss compete?
Man, you are SO f*ckkin boring! This is about the 500 time you've written the same blathering sh*t.
Go reattach your nose to Suzy's ass.
[quote]NOLIMIT wrote:
Lets put this in perspective here-who the hell outside any US female sprinter has come over and ran this well in Europe and when was the last time?
Anyone on EPO. Like Suzy.
No other way she could turn things around so fast a couple of seasons ago. (She sure couldn't do it by smart racing!)
Also, Teter probably would have handed Suzy her head (or more likely, with Teter in the race, Suzy would have lost her own head), except Teter had to cut short the season with an injury. Wonder if her late race sudden stop when Ditzy cut straight across the track from lane one en route to dropping out (again!) had anything to do with bringing that injury on?
Good tactic, Sluz, take out your prime competition.
Yes, there is NOLIMIT to the sycophantic blitherings of that poster. But I will give SFH her props:
American Distance AOY at this point
1. KK
2. Deena
3. Suzy
4. Krumm
5. Teter
6. Marla
I agree with sideliner. Easily a solid top 6 there-I just hesitate yet to really throw Teter in that level for the most part, not because she hasn't had a tremendous season, but only because this is really the first season she has had that was very good. Props to Deena and Marla-they are tough as nails.
NOLIMIT wrote:
I agree with sideliner. Easily a solid top 6 there-I just hesitate yet to really throw Teter in that level for the most part, not because she hasn't had a tremendous season, but only because this is really the first season she has had that was very good. Props to Deena and Marla-they are tough as nails.
AOY means athlete of the year.
It has nothing to do with whether they had a good year last year, or any other year for that matter.
NOLIMIT wrote:
I agree with sideliner. Easily a solid top 6 there-I just hesitate yet to really throw Teter in that level for the most part, not because she hasn't had a tremendous season, but only because this is really the first season she has had that was very good. Props to Deena and Marla-they are tough as nails.
Teter, Krumm, Hamilton have won GP races and run pretty fast. Deena and KK have set AR's and WR's. Marla?
Marla in 2002:
1500: 4:02
3000: 8:39 (1st at Pre over O'Sullivan)
5000: 15:07 solo indoors (AR)
15:07 outdoors (National Champion over LetsSlag mascot R Jacobs)
+ several very high quality performances above 10K on roads.
Other factors not yet affecting her AOY status: Her upcoming debut at the marathon, while perhaps not as anticipated as Deena's, combines with her innate speed to be a bold move and a crucial aspect of her development. Also keep in mind that this is only her fourth season competing as a distance runner (she was a heptathlete previously)
Marla Runyan set the 5000 indoors record in Feb. 2001, sideliner, so that's out. Her 15:07 to win the U.S. title in June was over Drossin, not Jacobs. Jacobs won the 1500, didn't compete in the 5000.
All the best to Marla in New York City on November 3.