The fastest runner in the 1973 NCAA XC Champs

That's Bill Dillenger on the right in the photo, yelling at Pre. Might be Ed Leddy behind Doug Brown?

What golf course in Spokane was the meet held at? I ran the D3 meet in Spokane back in 2000 on a course north of the city...huge cliffs and pine trees surrounding a snow covered course...awesome.

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http://www.geocities.com/~trackphotos/ncaa73.jpg

(l-r) Rose, Pre, Ngeno, Leddy, Brown[/quote]

Malmo

that looks like Neil Cusack not Eddy Leddy behind Ngeno. I know all Irish look alike, but.

woops, commented before seeing someone else noticed. My bad.

I dont think that's Dellinger. Don't recall Bill ever having a combover.

found a good picture of minty here:http://www.minty-ai.net/images/home.jpg

i'llll cya wrote:

Anyone have any pictures of Minty racing?

[quote]former upstate runner wrote:

What golf course in Spokane was the meet held at? (quote]

Hangman Valley.

here's one wrote:

found a good picture of minty here:

http://www.minty-ai.net/images/home.jpg

Clever but a better, albeit current pic was found when I simply typed in: picture of Gordon Minty. He's Dr. GM.

i'llll cya wrote:

Anyone have any pictures of Minty racing?

Here's one @:

. Go to pg 29 of 39. He's along the left side of the page.

I think my son is somewhere on an earlier page.

Wow I feel real dumb. I was looking for Bob Parks in the results and not Gordon Minty.

Hey Scotth have you heard of John Cross? I had him as a sub in HS many years ago and he had mentioned a couple of times that he used to run. I think he went to Eastern Michigan (he used to wear his old warmup jacket to school) in the early 80's. Just wondering if you knew what times he ran in college.

Yes, I know Jon Cross from Belleville High School. He went to that other college 7 miles down Washtenaw Ave in Ann Arbor. In part how he ended up there is a story best told by BParks. Jon was NOT a fan of the Hurons. I don't recall Jon's times but am sure he ran some good longer races. He was there w/Greg Meyer, among others.

He's a dentist and has lived in Hawaii for many years. Last I knew he was a major figure in the Honolulu Marathon. Jon annually hosts a number of UMich coaches/athletes each year at the Marathon.

100m.........no way. I want you all to go to a track and look at how far 100m is.

MegaZord wrote:

100m.........no way. I want you all to go to a track and look at how far 100m is.

You should go to an NCAA XC championships sometime. Within a half mile last place will be 100m behind the leaders.

The 1973 course was particulary problematic, since there were two 90 degree turns in the first 400.

oldwise wrote:

Malmo

that looks like Neil Cusack not Eddy Leddy behind Ngeno. I know all Irish look alike, but.

Thanks, I meant to say Cusack in the first place.

Scotth, you are correct of course about JON Cross. But I think Cash Money is asking about JOHN Cross, who was a fine runner for Eastern Michigan, in the mid-to-late 80's era. Eastern's John Cross was a top-5 XC guy on some good teams, maybe with G. Rodriguez-Osika-Scharich-Johns. He was a tough competitor;good to hear he went on to a teaching career.

scotth wrote:

Yes, I know Jon Cross from Belleville High School. He went to that other college 7 miles down Washtenaw Ave in Ann Arbor. In part how he ended up there is a story best told by BParks. Jon was NOT a fan of the Hurons. I don't recall Jon's times but am sure he ran some good longer races. He was there w/Greg Meyer, among others.

He's a dentist and has lived in Hawaii for many years. Last I knew he was a major figure in the Honolulu Marathon. Jon annually hosts a number of UMich coaches/athletes each year at the Marathon.

Right you are King! John Cross' big year was '86 at EMU. He was part of some strong mid-80's teams. They had some guys that could run.

Other factors regarding "100m"

- I'm not sure the total numbers that started in '73 race (I spose somebody could find out) but it was not unusual for NCAA races then to have 3-400 runners.

AND most of those kinds of races the leaders were out in about 2:05 - 2:10 and 4:20 +/- .

Makes for getting back in the hunt pretty tough, much less 3rd - top 5 - top 10 - 20 ...

If only Minty's own teammates hadn't thrown him to the ground - who know's ...

Tanks for the information.

no one wrote:

Other factors regarding "100m"

- I'm not sure the total numbers that started in '73 race (I spose somebody could find out) but it was not unusual for NCAA races then to have 3-400 runners.

If only Minty's own teammates hadn't thrown him to the ground - who know's ...

-As I've said, I don't think it was 100m but it was enough to make catching up a strain. I'm pretty sure we'd caught up to the last guys in less than a minute of running.

-'73 was the second year there was a qualiying system in place to run so doubt there were many more than run in the meet today (around 250). I'll dig thru my archives.

-My friend, if you persist in perpetuating the rumor 'Minty's own teammates thru him to the ground' I'm gonna let letsrun readers know the relationship between your last name & current fitness level. If that doesn't work, I'll ask a former roommate of yours for some choice back-in-the-day stories. Don't mess w/me!