From your comment about "don't wait too long", I think you are misunderstanding the article. They aren't saying that women are unable to get pregnant. They are saying women are choosing not to have kids as much in their 20s and that it has gone up in their 30s.
But it's much harder if you wait til your 30s, especially late 30s. And then many people count on IVF to bail them out but this also has a high failure rate not to mention painful.
Funny enough in my running group couples are getting kids left and right. One lady is pregnant for the 4th time now.
I always think: Why are they doing that in this hostile environment for getting kids. Healthcare, childcare, schools, college, all of this is very expensive. I admire them but at the same time I'm thinking they are crazy to do so.
I remember when Trump first got re-elected, I didn't have sex for a fortnight. And that's on the other side of the world. I can't imagine the anti-libidinal effect he has on Americans.
LOL. Two weeks? Sad. Why do you care? I can assure you nobody here cares about your leaders. Where are you from? Most of Europe is Cooked so glass houses annie. LOL, two weeks.
It is part of the reason why Trump is offering "Trump Accounts" for children of US Citizens, and seeding the Account with $1000. It is all part of the Big Beautiful Bill. It is reminiscent of the Third Reich encouraging Aryan women to have children.
From your comment about "don't wait too long", I think you are misunderstanding the article. They aren't saying that women are unable to get pregnant. They are saying women are choosing not to have kids as much in their 20s and that it has gone up in their 30s.
But it's much harder if you wait til your 30s, especially late 30s. And then many people count on IVF to bail them out but this also has a high failure rate not to mention painful.
You're still not getting the women's choice not to have kids part, are you?
Men might just need to be nicer to women and take steps to make childbirth and child raising less dangerous and financially and emotionally risky for them to encourage them to have kids. I don't think threatening a woman who is ambivalent about having kids with "being too old at 30" is likely to win their hearts and minds.
I remember when Trump first got re-elected, I didn't have sex for a fortnight. And that's on the other side of the world. I can't imagine the anti-libidinal effect he has on Americans.
LOL. Two weeks? Sad. Why do you care? I can assure you nobody here cares about your leaders. Where are you from? Most of Europe is Cooked so glass houses annie. LOL, two weeks.
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We wish he would leave, but so far we have all been stuck with him.
No one can afford kids even if they wanted them. Middle class is fast disappearing. Why bring kids in to the world where they will be subjected to wage slavery?
If you are actually concerned about this you would do something like support universal healthcare.
Then non whites would get free healthcare too so it's better nobody gets it.
Well said. My financials line up with yours, except I live in a very HCOL area and my wife has a similar income. My wife and I each have a younger sibling who is extremely troubled despite being a full-fledged adult. Both of our siblings are super dependent on our parents, despite being 24 and 27. Neither of us want to be responsible for a child like that.
Sure, my wife and I could have babies, or we could continue to enjoy life comfortably and have ample time / money for our hobbies and each other. DINK (Dual Income No Kids) seems like the best strategy to retire early and be happy.
We also don't feel particularly great about the current political climate. It doesn't seem like a great time to introduce a small human into the mix.
My parents were also from this HCOL area, btw. Despite only having one income (my mother was a STAH mom), they were able to afford a house lol. That's laughable for us despite working consistently after graduating college, paying off our loans ASAP. We did everything right except be born into wealth or a LCOL area.
All I hear here is excuses. If you don’t want problem children, don’t raise them that way. There is nothing preventing you from moving out of a HCOL area. I consciously moved away from a HCOL area. With remote work, you can live anywhere (I worked from home for about 20 years). I dropped to four days a week to spend more time with my kids. My wife still works four days a week. It was the best investment we ever made. There is more to life than Starbucks, North Face, the latest EV, overpriced urban restaurants, urban entertainment, travel and whatever else you are spending your money on instead of kids.
It is part of the reason why Trump is offering "Trump Accounts" for children of US Citizens, and seeding the Account with $1000. It is all part of the Big Beautiful Bill. It is reminiscent of the Third Reich encouraging Aryan women to have children.
It is part of the reason why Trump is offering "Trump Accounts" for children of US Citizens, and seeding the Account with $1000. It is all part of the Big Beautiful Bill. It is reminiscent of the Third Reich encouraging Aryan women to have children.
Pretty sure children of all races are eligible for Trump accounts. But yeah. Nazi this, nazi that. Blah blah blah.
From your comment about "don't wait too long", I think you are misunderstanding the article. They aren't saying that women are unable to get pregnant. They are saying women are choosing not to have kids as much in their 20s and that it has gone up in their 30s.
I think you are misunderstanding the article lol. The overall fertility rate is down for women of all ages. Pregnancy is considered geriatric after 35 years old, medically.
I think you are misunderstanding the article lol. The overall fertility rate is down for women of all ages. Pregnancy is considered geriatric after 35 years old, medically.
“Geriatric” doesn’t mean anything when so many women are having healthy babies just fine after 35.
Actually, it statistically does mean something. Spreading misinformation about pregnancy is something that actively harms women. Women who have children into their mid and late thirties are at a significantly increased risk of stillbirth, miscarriage, and facing severe health complications themselves, even death. The risk of miscarriage for women over 35 is double the rate for women under 30.
No one can afford kids even if they wanted them. Middle class is fast disappearing. Why bring kids in to the world where they will be subjected to wage slavery?
If you are actually concerned about this you would do something like support universal healthcare.
countries with universal healthcare generally have even lower fertility rates
Japan's total population is now lower than it was in the late 90s and early 2000s when I lived there. Not many countries experience that reality during that timeframe.
Why? Women don't want to have kids. Too expensive, difficult, limiting in life choices, burdensome with expectations from older women and all men etc. etc. and that's all beyond the actual effort and risk of carrying and delivering. This doesn't get "solved" by slogans or rhetoric or exhortations.
"parasaito shinguru no jidai desu!" Yamada-san wa sou da ne!
This doesn't get "solved" by slogans or rhetoric or exhortations.
Judging by the experience of countries that have tried, it also doesn't get solved by generous social welfare programs or tax credits, etc. At least not at the levels that have been tried. Moving the needle might require old people to make actual sacrifices, and god knows that will never happen.
I advise my two adult children to NOT have kids. The world isn't on a good trajectory and there is no good reason to bring children into it. The wealthy want feudal servants, and the tech bros predict that they won't have jobs or economic utility in a decade or less.
I dunno, perhaps the next gen can fix these problems? Perhaps you can help raise them to be less selfish than the past few generations?
Pretty bold to essentially throw your hands up and wish away the entire human race by advocating not procreating.
It’s obviously easy to intellectualize arguments for why being a DINK is the way to go. But we’re just animals in the end and being a parent is immensely rewarding. Perhaps not for everyone but please don’t dissuade others from missing their window of opportunity for becoming parents
I remember when Trump first got re-elected, I didn't have sex for a fortnight. And that's on the other side of the world. I can't imagine the anti-libidinal effect he has on Americans.
The "experts" who are panicking over lower birth rates are looking at 21st Century data through a 20th Century lens.
Here are two reasons why this is not a problem. Or, rather, it's not a problem in the way they are thinking.
We are on the verge of a substantial increase in longevity and quality of life at advanced age within the next 20 years. We've already seen the 1st and 2nd generations of longevity extenders, but the Holy Grail of longevity will be extending life by using stem cells that encourage failing organs to generate younger cells when their old cells die. Today's 20-somethings will be active and capable of being productive into their 80s, whereas today's boomers are falling apart by age 65.
Second, we can increase birth rates and lower the overall age of the population with selective immigration of young people.
