Jane's about five months younger and won an indoor 5000m right off xc training in 14:44, while Innes ran 14:39 in the circuit behind many. With much better mile speed and only one season above the high school level of training and competing, Jane's future looks brighter but no one knows.
But Jane under pressure or running from behind (XC Finals) didn't drag her along to a new PR like you credit Fitz of the drafting bonus.
Jane's about five months younger and won an indoor 5000m right off xc training in 14:44, while Innes ran 14:39 in the circuit behind many. With much better mile speed and only one season above the high school level of training and competing, Jane's future looks brighter but no one knows.
Ethiopia has had 13 Juniors Faster Than INNES Fitzgerald's 14:39
Do they attend day care in Minnesota? I need to know in order to verify the accuracy of the times.
But Jane under pressure or running from behind (XC Finals) didn't drag her along to a new PR like you credit Fitz of the drafting bonus.
She ran 3.4s faster than earlier in the season and the course was in worse condition. It’s also easier/better to draft on a track. Anyhow, this one is too close to call but I’d favor the athlete with more speed generally.
I think the strike against Hedengren is that her training up to this point has been highly professional which probably limits her short-term upside. But she'll now develop with a team within the NCAA system and assuming she sees it through, will have greater medium- and long-run upside than Fitzgerald. I guess we'll see.
So she trained like a pro in high school, but now that she is in college you are suggesting she won't train like a pro and you are then speculating what? Like, huh?
Jane has a week or two to run faster by the same age. Jane also ran her 14:44 indoors. Indoors is harder than outdoors. A solo effort is also harder than being pulled along to a fast time.
Their differentials between 3k and 5k are about the same (1.9sec). But Jane has a much faster 1500m time (4.04.7 to 4.15). Perhaps Innes just hasn't got into a good 1500m yet, but if that is a true reflection of her speed, then she has nowhere to go - Where Jane does. Being consistent at 5km on the track at a faster level, requires getting down to 4 minutes (or close). The best can run under 4 minutes.
the 4:15 was in may of 2024 and she hasn't run one since. Her PB's were 9:07 and 15:26 around that time, and they are now 8:32 and 14:39. Surely you dont think 4:15 is an accurate reflection of her speed today?
If she can run 8:32, for sure she can run 4:05 or faster.
I think the strike against Hedengren is that her training up to this point has been highly professional which probably limits her short-term upside. But she'll now develop with a team within the NCAA system and assuming she sees it through, will have greater medium- and long-run upside than Fitzgerald. I guess we'll see.
So she trained like a pro in high school, but now that she is in college you are suggesting she won't train like a pro and you are then speculating what? Like, huh?
Has it been proven that training like a pro is any different training hard in HS or college?
the 4:15 was in may of 2024 and she hasn't run one since. Her PB's were 9:07 and 15:26 around that time, and they are now 8:32 and 14:39. Surely you dont think 4:15 is an accurate reflection of her speed today?
If she can run 8:32, for sure she can run 4:05 or faster.
she ran 4:05.1 in May 2025 in a low key open at her home track - she would go much faster in a proper race but only did 1 last season. would expect a low/sub 4 from her during the indoor season (or 3:56 if she runs in boston)
shame her worst race of the season was at the worlds but she was absolutely cooked by then with way to many hard races - like a solo 15:09 at the euro juniors, completely pointless when she won by 50secs then doing the 3km in 8:45 against an equally mediocer field. she wont make the same mistakes again
If she can run 8:32, for sure she can run 4:05 or faster.
she ran 4:05.1 in May 2025 in a low key open at her home track - she would go much faster in a proper race but only did 1 last season. would expect a low/sub 4 from her during the indoor season (or 3:56 if she runs in boston)
shame her worst race of the season was at the worlds but she was absolutely cooked by then with way to many hard races - like a solo 15:09 at the euro juniors, completely pointless when she won by 50secs then doing the 3km in 8:45 against an equally mediocer field. she wont make the same mistakes again
I didn’t realize that she went to Tokyo. How did she get there? I know she had an issue with flying.
I think the strike against Hedengren is that her training up to this point has been highly professional which probably limits her short-term upside. But she'll now develop with a team within the NCAA system and assuming she sees it through, will have greater medium- and long-run upside than Fitzgerald. I guess we'll see.
Classic. You don't know her high school training, you don't know her college training, you don't know if training professionally young is good or bad but you just assume every variable and assume the effects of said variables despite the immediate results seem to counter your conclusion. You think her short term potential is limited, but she just went from battling collegians to a 14:57 in the spring to walking away from all collegians save one all fall then capped it off with a 14:44 massive negative split, which all seems like a big short term improvement.
Too bad Jakob trained so professionally young, I'd love to have seen what he could have done.
These two teenagers compare very well to each other. Both are extremely talented, front runners. It will be interesting to see if either of them develop a strong finish, as that will intimately determine how successful they will be as seniors, competing against the best east Africans.
I'm not sure when they might line up against each other. Jane will be tied into the college races and schedule, while Innes can run Diamond League and European races against great competition.