Maybe Notre Dame should just join the Sun Belt or ACC conference. Or do better than 2-2 against ranked opponents.
A nit -- USC and Pitt were both ranked when ND beat them. Miami's losses were to Louisville (in Miami) and SMU. ND had "better" losses; Miami had the head to head. Fair enough, but the Committee handled it very poorly.
And I think Miami and ND both should have made it.
the coaches know none of the seniors and juniors entering the draft are gonna play. and all of the good bowl games are taken by the playoff teams.
ND fans are better off not having a Bowl game at all than watch a buncha 3rd stringers get their asses handed to them by a MAC school at the Idaho Potato Bowl
Maybe Notre Dame should just join the Sun Belt or ACC conference. Or do better than 2-2 against ranked opponents.
A nit -- USC and Pitt were both ranked when ND beat them. Miami's losses were to Louisville (in Miami) and SMU. ND had "better" losses; Miami had the head to head. Fair enough, but the Committee handled it very poorly.
And I think Miami and ND both should have made it.
Frick notre dame. 37 years LOL and counting! Pull out those VHS tapes to see the glory years, they aren't coming back. Sore Losers! No extra practices for you. Join a conference.
I was lucky enough to be at the 2013 BCS National Championship Game. Good times. Alabama vs. notre dame. Not a fan of either but free tickets! Miami! If you know you know. A Miami 6 is an 8 in your city! The talking heads leading up to the game were talking Little notre dame up. Before the game I saw a lot of irish arrogance, I think some of their fans thought they were better than Alabama fans. Gametime. Excitement! The hopeful faces of the irish faithful. LOL. Game was over quick, the Mighty irish didn't score until Alabama led 35-0. LOL. Watching the faces of these people throughout the game was priceless. After the game we saw plenty of butthurt irish fans. Oh yeah.
A few years later Shame. On November 22, 2016, Notre Dame was forced to vacate all games from the 2012 season, including the National Championship Game, as a former student athletic trainer was revealed to have committed academic fraud by doing substantial course work for two players and impermissibly helping six others, rendering some of the players ineligible. Shame. Shame. Shame.
You must not have watched ND win 3 playoff games and fall a few key plays short of beating OSU for the the title last year, eh?
I’m totally with you on this. Notre Dame is being immature.
Baylor, Kansas St, and Iowa St too? They also are opting out of bowls.
Why are your singling out ND?
Yup. Thanks to the expanded playoff system, non-playoff bowls are a a trifle. If you have a lot of players who are draft-eligible choosing to sit out, not wasting player and staff time is a good choice. Let players prepare for exams. Teams have no obligation to fill the hotels and restaurants with their fans.
Frick notre dame. 37 years LOL and counting! Pull out those VHS tapes to see the glory years, they aren't coming back. Sore Losers! No extra practices for you. Join a conference.
I was lucky enough to be at the 2013 BCS National Championship Game. Good times. Alabama vs. notre dame. Not a fan of either but free tickets! Miami! If you know you know. A Miami 6 is an 8 in your city! The talking heads leading up to the game were talking Little notre dame up. Before the game I saw a lot of irish arrogance, I think some of their fans thought they were better than Alabama fans. Gametime. Excitement! The hopeful faces of the irish faithful. LOL. Game was over quick, the Mighty irish didn't score until Alabama led 35-0. LOL. Watching the faces of these people throughout the game was priceless. After the game we saw plenty of butthurt irish fans. Oh yeah.
A few years later Shame. On November 22, 2016, Notre Dame was forced to vacate all games from the 2012 season, including the National Championship Game, as a former student athletic trainer was revealed to have committed academic fraud by doing substantial course work for two players and impermissibly helping six others, rendering some of the players ineligible. Shame. Shame. Shame.
You must not have watched ND win 3 playoff games and fall a few key plays short of beating OSU for the the title last year, eh?
Frick notre dame. 37 years LOL and counting! Pull out those VHS tapes to see the glory years, they aren't coming back. Sore Losers! No extra practices for you. Join a conference.
I was lucky enough to be at the 2013 BCS National Championship Game. Good times. Alabama vs. notre dame. Not a fan of either but free tickets! Miami! If you know you know. A Miami 6 is an 8 in your city! The talking heads leading up to the game were talking Little notre dame up. Before the game I saw a lot of irish arrogance, I think some of their fans thought they were better than Alabama fans. Gametime. Excitement! The hopeful faces of the irish faithful. LOL. Game was over quick, the Mighty irish didn't score until Alabama led 35-0. LOL. Watching the faces of these people throughout the game was priceless. After the game we saw plenty of butthurt irish fans. Oh yeah.
A few years later Shame. On November 22, 2016, Notre Dame was forced to vacate all games from the 2012 season, including the National Championship Game, as a former student athletic trainer was revealed to have committed academic fraud by doing substantial course work for two players and impermissibly helping six others, rendering some of the players ineligible. Shame. Shame. Shame.
the coaches know none of the seniors and juniors entering the draft are gonna play. and all of the good bowl games are taken by the playoff teams.
ND fans are better off not having a Bowl game at all than watch a buncha 3rd stringers get their asses handed to them by a MAC school at the Idaho Potato Bowl
I'd rather see them do this than do what Florida State did in 2023.
FSU finished the season 13-0 after winning the ACC Championship Game but were omitted from the (then) four-team playoff. They instead played Georgia in the Orange Bowl and a large number of their starters decided not to play in the game, some to protest, some to not risk injury before the draft.
It was embarrassing - Georgia 63, Florida State 3. Terrible ending to a fantastic season.
This is absurd. Florida State didn't get included because their QB got injured. This isnt the same thing. I hate FSU but they deserved to be in that playoff
Structure D1 college football like Euro soccer: Premier League (32 best teams), First Division (33-64), Second Division, etc. Like soccer, add the element of promotion/relegation every year.
Premier League can then have their top 8 teams square off in a title playoff to determine the champion. No more committees, formulas, or polls. Bottom four teams get relegated to First Division while the top four finishers in the First Division playoffs get promoted to Premier the following season.
More freedom for schools to determine what level is best for their situation. Incentive to invest in players/staffs/facilities for ambitious schools. Motivation for old coaches t o stop mailing it as relegation probably means a firing. Many long suffering fan bases and mid-majors might be content to be successful in a lower division rather than trying to outspend big programs.
This doesn't really work for college football, at least without some changes. The whole point of the starting the playoff was to find out which team is the best in the country (remember when the Associated Press used to crown the champion based on vibes?). Player turnover is so high that almost every year you would have a team from First Division where everyone wonders "could they be the best in the country?"
So maybe the First and Second division winners have a wildcard play-in to enter the Premier playoff. But then scheduling might get weird.
Maybe Notre Dame should just join the Sun Belt or ACC conference. Or do better than 2-2 against ranked opponents.
A nit -- USC and Pitt were both ranked when ND beat them. Miami's losses were to Louisville (in Miami) and SMU. ND had "better" losses; Miami had the head to head. Fair enough, but the Committee handled it very poorly.
And I think Miami and ND both should have made it.
Sorry but just before the Iron Bowl, Alabama beat an eventual 3-9 Eastern Illinois. The seeding committee knew what they were doing by keeping Alabama in the top 10. With wins versus Eastern Illinois and a grossly underperforming Auburn in the weeks before the SEC Championship, there is no way that Alabama should have been a 9. In all fairness, one could have made a case for even Vanderbilt to jump over Alabama at 12 and to make Alabama the 14. As we learned from Miami and Duke, Miami could still be ranked higher for the CFP picture even if they were below Duke in the ACC.
Notre Dame got completely hosed because one would have to explain why having 2 losses is worse than having 3 as in the case of Alabama.
And if conference championships factored in, then one would have to explain why 3 loss BYU didn't get in when they were initially ranked higher than Alabama before their loss to Texas Tech.
It was clear that the choice should have been between BYU and Notre Dame and not Alabama.
A nit -- USC and Pitt were both ranked when ND beat them. Miami's losses were to Louisville (in Miami) and SMU. ND had "better" losses; Miami had the head to head. Fair enough, but the Committee handled it very poorly.
And I think Miami and ND both should have made it.
Sorry but just before the Iron Bowl, Alabama beat an eventual 3-9 Eastern Illinois. The seeding committee knew what they were doing by keeping Alabama in the top 10. With wins versus Eastern Illinois and a grossly underperforming Auburn in the weeks before the SEC Championship, there is no way that Alabama should have been a 9. In all fairness, one could have made a case for even Vanderbilt to jump over Alabama at 12 and to make Alabama the 14. As we learned from Miami and Duke, Miami could still be ranked higher for the CFP picture even if they were below Duke in the ACC.
Notre Dame got completely hosed because one would have to explain why having 2 losses is worse than having 3 as in the case of Alabama.
And if conference championships factored in, then one would have to explain why 3 loss BYU didn't get in when they were initially ranked higher than Alabama before their loss to Texas Tech.
It was clear that the choice should have been between BYU and Notre Dame and not Alabama.
The ND leaders that made this decision should be fired. The m millions and millions of capital gain they lost because of their decision. Colleges are businesses. This was a horrible business decision and in the real world, the decision makers would be fired for a loss like this.
Structure D1 college football like Euro soccer: Premier League (32 best teams), First Division (33-64), Second Division, etc. Like soccer, add the element of promotion/relegation every year.
Premier League can then have their top 8 teams square off in a title playoff to determine the champion. No more committees, formulas, or polls. Bottom four teams get relegated to First Division while the top four finishers in the First Division playoffs get promoted to Premier the following season.
More freedom for schools to determine what level is best for their situation. Incentive to invest in players/staffs/facilities for ambitious schools. Motivation for old coaches t o stop mailing it as relegation probably means a firing. Many long suffering fan bases and mid-majors might be content to be successful in a lower division rather than trying to outspend big programs.
I like it a lot. But this college and the players wont care about being relegated, they are trying out for pros, and a bowl game is unnecessary risk for injury.
Having said that. ND owes it to their players. Lets be honest, its a road trip to a warm state and spending a week with friends and family all paid and maybe disney. Essentially, thats Michigans coach said. Im with him.
The ND leaders that made this decision should be fired. The m millions and millions of capital gain they lost because of their decision. Colleges are businesses. This was a horrible business decision and in the real world, the decision makers would be fired for a loss like this.
You do know that outside of the major bowls, teams lose money or make very little on bowl games.
They don’t have broadcast rights like normal games and you don’t get normal home ticket/concession revenue. You get a lump sum that’ll probably barely cover costs of flying your team/band out.
Most teams do it for the extra practice time or to woo alums. Notre Dame alums aren’t going to be interested in a 3rd tier bowl game, and at their level, the players would probably rather spend the holidays with their families or working out in a pre-draft camp.
I’m guessing the coaches asked the kids before deciding. All the stupid bowl games now are just participation trophies. Good on all the teams that opt out.
If the message is to quit if you don’t get your own way, then that’s not a good message. Under any circumstances.
If any team had ever had a legit argument in the History of sport, it would have been The U, and we would still have played. Even in the most remote parts of the country, there are children who are fans of your team.