Very unlikely we see Valby ever make a US track team ever again

I’ve always said this. The real question did New Balance spend too much of Valby to justify her not being a star.

M bet is and has been that she will never place higher in a World Championship/Olympic Games than she already has.

Top Ten in either?

Yeah, I'm not seeing it. But I'd be happy to be wrong.

Valby has already made an Olympic team and finished 11th. The real question is how much money did Adidas waste on Tuohy, especially since they already have three young stars in Kessler, Young, and Wiley. They have gotten absolutely nothing from that contract and yesterday was exactly two years to the day since she signed. Valby signed only 14 months ago and has done much more.

Tuohy and Valby are the biggest waste of money for any company at this point

I mean, it seems like most of the pro American women don’t get much faster after college. Shelby was an exception and as we all know she was doped to the gills on nandrolone. Hiltz has improved and is at least in the top mix and even won a DL race this year, but let’s face it, we don’t know for sure if they are evening racing in the right gender category. Cranny peaked and was never a medal factor, Monson will never be the same, Mu is cooked, ESP is always pregnant, Schweitzer is mid pack, and Seidel just got lucky once and is otherwise terrible. It’s not like Valby and Tuohy don’t have plenty of company on the failed pro women list. It looks like the failure could be a systemic American training problem.

She has more of a tumultuous history with coaches than I originally thought. But I dont like how the consensus opinion here is that she owes the community anything more and needs to be #1 every single time. She has earned the opportunity to compete professionally.

I agree. And most of the American women suck and hardly ever win anything important, so it’s not like it’s just Valby who is underperforming.

There should be a way to filter out posts with bad takes like this.

I'm gonna laugh when she connects with Josh Hoey, changes coaches a few more times, then drops a few American and World records after a stint of training at a private training facility

Keely Hodg is unlikely to ever make a US track team again too. Parker is always welcome to Qatar or Ireland teams. In the era of free agency, all that matters is Parkers new thunder thighs will be on display under someone's flag.

How is this tumultuous? An alternative way to write it:

- Graduates high school
- In college, coach leaves
- new coach, graduates college
- new coach, pro
- back to college coach

Huh??? There's nothing tumultuous about this coaching history. All school related, then one change in her own as a pro. Most likely she even got along fine with Coogan, but simply wanted to be back in Florida.

Xc race and weightlifting. Personally, I thought she ran well. Fitness just not quite back yet. New muscles actually show real serious commitment from her to a pro training regime. (Look at Purrier, Houlihan, Cranny). She is going to be a USA candidate at 10000 for a long time.

Wiley, Tuohy and Valby all have 8+ years left to compete, so this 1 xc race does not determine their career.

It was fun though. I'm not sure we will get many races like that with so many college/hs stars all together.

Valby, Tuohy, Wiley, Hurta, Jones, Kelati, Izzo, Hartman, Schweizer, Ostrander, Houlihan...pretty nice fields.

No! You don't understand. It all comes down to a muddy golf course after 15 preliminary races on it before the start and literally nothing on the line to an elite competitor in actual track and field. Don't you get it. The headline is Allie Ostrangatang fininshed 8th as an influencer with almost 2 dozen actual real non-bot viewers.

Allie Ostrander is a three time ncaa steeple champion, a top ten Olympic trials finisher, and incredibly versatile multi surface strength runner with numerous other achievements. She is far more than just another running influencer. She is a pro with a long pedigree of accomplishments. You have real nerve calling her an orangutan when you are clearly the one who is as dumb as an oragnutan.

Not if you can't stop talking about them. You pay for presence, not results. No one remembers, nor cares what shoes Mu wore but Valby could stop at a 7/11 in New Mexico and everyone is talking about it.

Also. American women are incredibly weak in the 10000. The cutoff for women's 10000 for Worlds in 2025 was 30:20. How many American women ran under that in 2024 and 2025? 0 combined. She has a straight shot

Did Allie win a Alaskan processing boat foosball tournament you wish hype about too? steeple? Really? 10 years ago when Allie was participating, Rhonda Rousey could have won a steeplechase. Steeple was like a rec league for hacky sack junkies who tested positive for THC. She still runs the exact same times today at steeple that she ran in college and can't make a final in any national level event. She is a pacer last year and then ran against 2 girls who couldn't break 10 minutes for 3k. Get back on her Youtube before you miss what macaroni and cheese she is boiling tonight.

Disagree, one time a company gave me a lot of money to move across the country and I completely failed them.

Coogan, the group, and the location looked to be a poor fit for Valby, judging mostly by the first workout video that they put up and by the fact that she left quickly, but Coogan is a great coach who has had tremendous success with his 800/1500/5000 runners, so I think she left too soon.