Jerry silences the doubters? Oregon wins its first conference xc crown since 2008, snaps Wisconsin's 7 year win streak

Rojo, I find it absolutely hilarious how indigent you guys were about Ruth Chepengetich and how you vehemently advocate how coaches/agents who have a history of doped athletes should receive bans themselves and we should question their current athletes, yet, to this day, still go out of your collective ways to hand wave away Jerry's unaccountability when he and one of his star athletes knowingly fed us BS about their own positive test and "shamed" the system the caught them. The hypocrisy is monumental, de-legitimizes your anger/concern, and frankly, makes you look foolish.

how how is ayyildiz still competing?

The major element of coaching is recruiting. If Jerry can convince guys like Birnbaum, Burns, Fasthorse and Echohawk, as well as some fast foreign transfers to come to Oregon, then he is just doing his job.

These other weaker teams are not right now able to recruit successfully.

It's not as if talent is randomly and fairly distributed to teams, and a coach is then solely evaluated on how the runners develop.

I'm not sure Burns and Birnbaum are yet 'generational talents'. Are they really the best from a 15-20 year generation of high schoolers?

To join Fisher, Young, Green, Wolfe etc they will actually have to win something.

Rankings adjusted afterwards I think.

Yet look what he’s done with Balazs and Smith. Both All Americans.

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No wait just a minute there, rojo. I never heard a peep from the "doubers." Why don't I get credit, too?

(1) "doubers"? what?

(2) "The #10 Wisconsin men’s 7-year win streak was snapped as #10 Oregon got out hard"? What?

as they are doubers! as doubers are doubers!!!

The #10 Wisconsin men’s 7-year win streak was snapped as #10 Oregon

THE #10 WISCONSIN MEN'S 7 YEAR WIN STREAK WAS SNAPPED AS #10 OREGON!!!

An Ivy League education.

I’ve thought this like 10 times, but I’m pretty sure just she came over to south carolina at like 22 already. Hasn’t actually spread her career over a ton of years as far as I know

Agree with this. The big ten men’s meet has been weak for a while now. For most of those 7 years the Badgers beat up on a weak conference and then got trounced at nationals. It took longer than expected to build a good team, but Oregon looks like they will start their own run of big ten titles now.

hey, jerry doesn't know what testosterone is ...

to be fair, track town USA has signs of life, beyond woman's discus, cross country regionals is acceptable. i'm from back in the day where outside top five in the country was not a thing.

ya, very annoying, talking out of both sides of their mouthes at the same time. however

letsrun are light years better than the rest, runners world, nbc, and track and field news, which is deadder than a doornail.

so you take it.

Robert: FYI, in Big Ten, MSU was 2nd with 68 (not 90) off a 2-3 finish by Hough and Westphal. Wisconsin had 90 in 3rd

He’s a churn and burn type of coach. Eventually he was going to have a year where it sticks. Will see if they can sustain at least a few years of success.

These guys still aren't close to good enough to get a podium at nationals in xc, but multiple guys can contend in track, including Balazs, Burns, and Birnbaum. It's been slow going for Jerry, multiple wasted years, but he's slowly getting them there with massive built-in advantages in recruiting and NIL funds.