Most forget Grant wasn’t even the best track athlete he coached at the high school level. He had a mid distance teammate who was even better at the time also coached by Scannell. Good try though. As for now, seems to be doing fine and mastered his coaching.
Grant didn’t lose a single race from sophomore year outdoors until post season senior year (to Drew Hunter).
I am sure that Mike Scannell would and probably will come on here to say that he isn't the greatest coach but works at it and was fortunate to have one of the greatest ever hs talents in Grant Fisher fall into his clutches. Scannell is a good guy, forthcoming with straight talk, and he has done a great job with Grant. I just think that Grant was probably overcooked indoors and is going to need a good rest after World's so that he can come back in even better form outdoors. His top form indoors was pretty incredible, though.
One source said he has coached 38 individual state champions. This Hamilton, AZ team, which he was coaching in only his second year, not only won state but broke the state records for lowest score and fastest overall time. Add that to coaching Grant Fisher to sub-4 and multiple national titles and a multi-year win streak before taking Fisher from a BTC program lined with a legendary former Wisconsin and future Oregon coach, with more sub-13 or 13 flat athletes than probably all other U.S. coaches, from out of the medals to a double Olympic medalist in the 5 and 10 and two indoor world records.
Bro is seriously cringe when he talks. Not a likable dude at all. Honestly, the perfect comparison is Tinman—they both act like they're always right and like no one else knows anything. That’s exactly why, in the long run, they don’t make great coaches on many levels.
Terrible take. Super friendly guy. Showed up at the LRC SC meetup in Paris last year.
I like coaches who think they are right. John Kellogg certainly thought he was right. He wanted things done a certain way.
I actually think there are several ways to cook a steak and the result depends on teh quality of a meet. But if you are cooking it a certain way, you need to know how to perfect it and not switch midstream to a different method
I am sure that Mike Scannell would and probably will come on here to say that he isn't the greatest coach but works at it and was fortunate to have one of the greatest ever hs talents in Grant Fisher fall into his clutches. Scannell is a good guy, forthcoming with straight talk, and he has done a great job with Grant. I just think that Grant was probably overcooked indoors and is going to need a good rest after World's so that he can come back in even better form outdoors. His top form indoors was pretty incredible, though.
By outdoors, I hope you mean USA XC champs in December.
Would hate to see Grant blow off a chance to lead Team USA @ World XC in Tallahassee in January.
Rojo: did you/JG ever get confirmation from Grant or Mike re: Grant's participation @ Glendoveer?
Bro is seriously cringe when he talks. Not a likable dude at all. Honestly, the perfect comparison is Tinman—they both act like they're always right and like no one else knows anything. That’s exactly why, in the long run, they don’t make great coaches on many levels.
Terrible take. Super friendly guy. Showed up at the LRC SC meetup in Paris last year.
I like coaches who think they are right. John Kellogg certainly thought he was right. He wanted things done a certain way.
I actually think there are several ways to cook a steak and the result depends on teh quality of a meet. But if you are cooking it a certain way, you need to know how to perfect it and not switch midstream to a different method
Mike Scannell is hard to listen to. It’s not him thinking he’s right, it’s arrogance. Two different things completely. And Scannell was a modest high school coach at best. Grant basically needed a coach NOT to tell him what to do. Grants a bit of a know it all himself. I still root for him as an American distance star, but kind of a know it all personality.
I never understood why this board gassed Scannell up so much when Grant did well in 2024. It was like Grant had totally failed at Bowerman and Scannell came in and revived his career. GRANT RAN 26:33 AT BOWERMAN. That's the kind of time you expect from Olympic medalists. I think Scannell did great, but basically by not messing it up.
GRANT RAN 26:33 AT BOWERMAN. That's the kind of time you expect from Olympic medalists. I think Scannell did great, but basically by not messing it up.
Fisher would also likely have won 5K bronze in 2022 except for getting clipped with 100m to go. He also had placed 4th, 5th, and 6th in global championships prior to 2024. So, yeah, I agree with you.
Honestly, is masterminding his own training. It’s definitely a bizarre situation, but I’m still a fan of Grant himself.
His “coach / part time advisor” is bad high school coach with no success but Grant.
So when fisher left Bowerman and went back to his hs coach, he medaled (twice) for his first time ever at a global championship and then ran 3k/5k indoor wr's. Seems to be a "bit of success", right?
If you were serious about running in the Grand Blanc, MI area in the early 00s to 2010s then you knew Mike and you also knew that regardless of whether you were a 5:30 miler, a 4:30 miler, or like Grant, a 3:58 miler, Mike was happy to run with you and share his knowledge and expierience to help you get better. Regardless of anything else, those are signs of a great coach.
I am sure that Mike Scannell would and probably will come on here to say that he isn't the greatest coach but works at it and was fortunate to have one of the greatest ever hs talents in Grant Fisher fall into his clutches. Scannell is a good guy, forthcoming with straight talk, and he has done a great job with Grant.
Having known Scannell for over twenty years, I can attest to this, 100%. Good dude.
Does he think he's right? Of course he does, probably b/c he spends a lot of time in thought *and* practice playing around with different ideas and seeing what works. Don't think he gives many poops about being called "great" or getting accolades, he's the kind of guy who gleans enjoyment out of being the facilitator of other peoples success. That's the kind of guy I want to have a beer with. Just my .02
I am sure that Mike Scannell would and probably will come on here to say that he isn't the greatest coach but works at it and was fortunate to have one of the greatest ever hs talents in Grant Fisher fall into his clutches. Scannell is a good guy, forthcoming with straight talk, and he has done a great job with Grant.
Having known Scannell for over twenty years, I can attest to this, 100%. Good dude.
Does he think he's right? Of course he does, probably b/c he spends a lot of time in thought *and* practice playing around with different ideas and seeing what works. Don't think he gives many poops about being called "great" or getting accolades, he's the kind of guy who gleans enjoyment out of being the facilitator of other peoples success. That's the kind of guy I want to have a beer with. Just my .02
A cocky dude who again is a subpar high school coach. All these years of high school coaching and no real elites
Terrible take. Super friendly guy. Showed up at the LRC SC meetup in Paris last year.
I like coaches who think they are right. John Kellogg certainly thought he was right. He wanted things done a certain way.
I actually think there are several ways to cook a steak and the result depends on teh quality of a meet. But if you are cooking it a certain way, you need to know how to perfect it and not switch midstream to a different method
Mike Scannell is hard to listen to. It’s not him thinking he’s right, it’s arrogance. Two different things completely. And Scannell was a modest high school coach at best. Grant basically needed a coach NOT to tell him what to do. Grants a bit of a know it all himself. I still root for him as an American distance star, but kind of a know it all personality.
Easy to comprehend Grant knows more than most as does his coach.
Grant is one of the most humble athletes one will ever meet if you are so lucky. He is engaging, genuine, and happy. you might want to emulate those traits.
As for his coach and the flack from posters. It is strange someone even started this kind of thread. Proves once again that jealousy prevails as a human trait by a few no so talented individuals.
Mike Scannell is hard to listen to. It’s not him thinking he’s right, it’s arrogance. Two different things completely. And Scannell was a modest high school coach at best. Grant basically needed a coach NOT to tell him what to do. Grants a bit of a know it all himself. I still root for him as an American distance star, but kind of a know it all personality.
Easy to comprehend Grant knows more than most as does his coach.
Grant is one of the most humble athletes one will ever meet if you are so lucky. He is engaging, genuine, and happy. you might want to emulate those traits.
As for his coach and the flack from posters. It is strange someone even started this kind of thread. Proves once again that jealousy prevails as a human trait by a few no so talented individuals.
The thread started because MS is an unsuccessful high school coach with a huge ego. I wish him luck , but it’s all true