Odd that Hiltz is passing up opportunity to win DL final and bank $50k. She was in Europe just a few days ago. What’s another 1500 when she still has plenty of time before Worlds?
That would be $30K in case of the W1500m. Only a selection of events are Diamond+ and for the final those are M100m, M1500m, M400mH, M Pole Vault, W100m, W100mH, W3000m and W Long Jump.
I hope Hoey and Nuguse can pull it off but the 800 and 1500m look pretty deep. Not impossible for them to win but it’ll be tough.
Hoey was always going to face a monumental task ever after his Lausanne win. I think a large contributing factor to that was his concentration and focus in the conditions that maybe the rest of the field didn't have on that night, but probably will have in Zurich.
Nuguses worst case scenario was Laros running this race and he is. Because with the form Laros showed in Brussels I'm not sure what race scenario plays out where Laros isn't in good enough form to beat him. Like right now the only type of race I think Nuguse could beat him in was one well under 3.29 and probably closer to Yareds PR. Not only is he not in that shape anyway, DL finals traditionally aren't even won in under 3.30 - only one "final" has ever been in its history.
1500m men is arguably missing all of the world's top 5 men (the top 3 from the U.S.A., Kerr, and Ingebrigtsen). That was a bit of a surprise. Also, one completely unranked runner getting in.
1500m men is arguably missing all of the world's top 5 men (the top 3 from the U.S.A., Kerr, and Ingebrigtsen). That was a bit of a surprise. Also, one completely unranked runner getting in.
Rak is likely pacer #2 for the 1500. Salvatore- just pointing out Sieradzki is back in as pacer for the 800. He can both go to 500m and provide excellent drafting/pacing for Wanyonyi. Beating him again with that variable in his favor will be a tall task and I think Hoey avoiding too much early/late jockeying for position with Burgin will be huge. Also Sedjati’s reemergence is a complete wild card.
EDIT: If Wanyonyi wins, AK faces a political conundrum to reward the 4th placer Kipngetich who earned the spot (but has been mediocre this year), or put in Chepkwony who broke 1:43 in a win recently and has been better all year
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What are the odds Cooper breaks the world record? At this point there's still so much improvment he'll have to make, I think it's no more than 5 percent.
My mistake, thanks for the clarification. But, e.g., in the women's 800m in Zurich, Audrey Werro is entered, and it's not unrealistic that she could win. So is she a global or Swiss wild card? I'd assume Swiss, but I don't see anyone else "global" (other than the pacer) who wasn't in the top 7 already.
A global wildcard must be one of the following
– World record holder – Reigning world, Olympic or Diamond League champion – Top 5 in the World Athletics rankings of their event – Top 20 in the overall World Athletics rankings
Did Grant even get in on a wild card? I know Grant's arguably got 2 of these (5th in the 5000m world rankings, indoor WR holder for 5000m). But I see enough other absences, of people in the DL standings ahead of him but not on the 3000m start list, that it might just be that enough people declined for 7 points to be enough.
Notably, Biniam Mehary is also in the race but his world ranking is 8. I think he got in because he had 7 points on the DL standings (tied with Grant).
These men were auto-qualified but are not on the start list, presumably they declined and spots opened up for those below:
- Birhanu Balew (19 points)
- Yomif Kejelcha (17 points)
- Nico Young (10 points)
These athletes all had 8 points, ahead of Grant and tied with Almgren (qualified), but are not on the start list:
- Hagos Gebrhiwet
- Berihu Aregawi
- Keneth Kiprop
- Isaac Kimeli
- Reynold Cheruiyot
(Almgren was the other 8 pointer but was ahead of them and auto-qualified. I am not sure what the tie breaker was to put him ahead of Aregawi, who also had a DL win.)
These athletes all had 7 points:
- Biniam Mehary (in the race)
- Edwin Kurgat (not in the race)
- Grant Fisher (in the race)
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For the same position to qualify for the Diamond League Final, the athlete will be chosen according to the best legal performance amongst those achieved in the Diamond League Meetings.
Almgren ran 12:44 in his DL win, Aregawi ran 12:50.
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I hope Hoey and Nuguse can pull it off but the 800 and 1500m look pretty deep. Not impossible for them to win but it’ll be tough.
Hoey was always going to face a monumental task ever after his Lausanne win. I think a large contributing factor to that was his concentration and focus in the conditions that maybe the rest of the field didn't have on that night, but probably will have in Zurich.
Nuguses worst case scenario was Laros running this race and he is. Because with the form Laros showed in Brussels I'm not sure what race scenario plays out where Laros isn't in good enough form to beat him. Like right now the only type of race I think Nuguse could beat him in was one well under 3.29 and probably closer to Yareds PR. Not only is he not in that shape anyway, DL finals traditionally aren't even won in under 3.30 - only one "final" has ever been in its history.
Yep, and it was without pacelights. Anyone remember this race? I think this is the only time Jakob ever went out in 54-mid in a diamond league.
1500m men is arguably missing all of the world's top 5 men (the top 3 from the U.S.A., Kerr, and Ingebrigtsen). That was a bit of a surprise. Also, one completely unranked runner getting in.
They have no interest in travelling to Europe at this time, sucks but it is what it is.
Hoey was always going to face a monumental task ever after his Lausanne win.
Nuguses worst case scenario was Laros running this race and he is.
So basically Wanyoni and Laros have a golden opportunity to eliminate two fellow Tokio gold medal contenders in Zurich.
Great point and it's totally true. Win this, make 30k and knock out a guy that absolutely has the talent and ability to be in the mix in the final 100m of each respective final? Sounds good to me.
Seeing that Sedjati is racing also changes the dynamic of the 800m, not just because he's a 1.41 runner, but because it's now another guy who will want to be there or thereabouts at the front of the field after 200m so another body/presence to have to account for in the case of Hoey.
One thing that JH does have going for him? Insane competitive focus and desperation. Not that Nuguse isn't a competitive or hungry guy but Hoey is like intensely focussed and desperate to make it to Tokyo. That does matter in this big races so let's see, all the best to him.
I might break my TV if Grant Fisher waits til 100m to go like he has been the last 2 races. His best and most successful strategy historically has been to go with 1200m to go. He should feel confident doing that as the 3k indoor WR holder.
I get that many athletes have a training schedule leading up to Worlds, but to miss out on a single (competitive) race with good prize money (50K 1st place for quite a few events) seems like poor planning ?! Russell running in the pouring rain in Lausanne, but not running for 50K 8 days later in Zurich ? Melissa JW running Brussels, but says no to 50K in Zurich 6 days later ?
Yeah I think you raise a good point across the board. Yes of course the fields are in general very good - but I can't help but feel its been a bit of a fizzle out to the DL season here which is a shame. Yes Lausanne was wrecked by the weather but even then it seemed like that meet and Brussels really cannibalized each other. Van Damme this year was one of the weakest Brussels meets I can ever remember.
Now you go to Zurich, we have no Kipyegon, Hocker or Kerr in the 1500's. No Keely in the 800, No MJW or Alfred in the 100, no Bakali in the SC - it just feels like it's another good DL meet when you really want it to be something special. Of course we know why that's the case - it's been a very long season even if you didn't run GST, and a lot of the athletes are just wanting to recharge the batteries before Tokyo as much as they can. It's tough because this is what happens when you put this as basically last big meet before worlds, but on the flipside it's hard to keep athletes mega motivated post the worlds.
Just seems like the sport had the right mix in the days of the GP final when there was only either the Golden Four (4 meets) or Golden League (7 meets) because even when that meet (GP final) was after the world champs, almost every big name fronted for it. Seems like fewer DL meets and then a final where you put serious cash up (100k prize money anyone? - that actually have?) could simply be better.
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I’m confused/concerned about Nico not running the DL final. I thought he said he was running it so I hope he’s not injured. He has been posting running videos so I hope it’s nothing serious, but I am disappointed because I would have loved to see how he stacked up.
EDIT: If Wanyonyi wins, AK faces a political conundrum to reward the 4th placer Kipngetich who earned the spot (but has been mediocre this year), or put in Chepkwony who broke 1:43 in a win recently and has been better all year
It won't be a conundrum as only the top 2 in our trials are automatically picked
the 3rd place is usually up to AK discretion
in the event Wanyonyi wins the DL 800, AK might pick very well pick Chepkwony because in Kenya its not an automatic 4th placer advancement like in the USA or elsewhere
Coe wants a longer season. But these type of Diamond League finals are going to be the norm if the global final is later than the Diamond League final. At first glance there's virtually nobody missing from the field events but lots of names not there at 1500 and up from both genders.
Hoey gets the worst draw. He has to deal with everybody. At least Wiley doesn't have to deal with Keely.
I'm not thrilled that Isaya Klein-Ikkink is running, even if it's the nationals race. Meuwly simply doesn't give a damn about outside noise, not when he's got relays to protect.
Still confused on why they choose to run a 3k at the final after doing 5k all season.
Running 5000 is a lot more draining especially with just a little over 2 weeks to Tokyo Worlds- yes that extra 2k in the 5k does make a big difference. The 3k may be tactical and won in around 7:40-7:45. Not everyone wants to show their hand. Long season. These monsters are not robots. Almgren just won the 10km in the Sweden versus Finland duel meet last week in 29:00+. He might have that in his legs. Dude's a monster though, you never know.