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9 months ago 08/20/2025 1:47pm EDT

re: DukeofDenmark

DukeofDenmark wrote:
The king just posted on Instagram:
"Tuesday track session in Chiavenna ✅
2k, 1600, 1200, 1k, 800, 600, 300, 400, 200 🚂💨 Feeling strong 💪🏼"
I'm anxiously waiting to find out what his plans are for the wc. I REALLY hope he is in great shape and competitive in at least one of the 1500m and 5000m.
I never trained at an elite level, so maybe one of you can help me explain what his workout might be tailored towards? I guess it could be a lot (especially with no times and rest included), but maybe it hints more towards only 5k, or could the shorter reps be a sign that he is prepping for something faster?
Any insights/speculation is appreciated!

Cutdown, likely hitting a range of paces

I'd guess the 2k and 1600 were about 8k-5k pace, 1200-800 at 3k or so, and the 400-200 progressing from mile to 800. Hit a wide range of paces and get accustomed to shifting gears

9 months ago 08/20/2025 2:54pm EDT

re: rojo

Ingy is back baby! Doesn't even look like he's breathing in those pics

9 months ago 08/20/2025 3:36pm EDT

re: Thalia Street

Thalia Street wrote:
the entire workout was done in flats. Achilles must still be a problem if no spikes.

Disagree.

There is no need to put on spikes for a few fast reps at the end of this.

The fact that it would be pointless and stupid to do after an injury doesn't mean that it is still a "problem."

9 months ago 08/20/2025 3:36pm EDT

re: Thalia Street

Thalia Street wrote:
the entire workout was done in flats. Achilles must still be a problem if no spikes.

Disagree.

There is no need to put on spikes for a few fast reps at the end of this.

The fact that it would be pointless and stupid to do after an injury doesn't mean that it is still a "problem."

9 months ago 08/20/2025 3:54pm EDT

re: Salvitore Stitchmo

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:
Soy wrote:
Jakob needs to stop wearing carbon plate shoes so often. I'm convinced they're creating/exacerbating his achilles injuries.
It wouldn't be the plate but the foam around it. Think about it, for the foam to "spring" back (which everyone seems to like) it needs a lot of compression (why the shoes are 35-40mm stack). Each impact that foam is deforming 15-20mm (about half it's uncompressed height) - that is a lot of movement. Now when you are nice and fresh and making super efficient footstrikes, that might be okay - but what about when you get fatigued and you aren't coming down perfectly on top of the midsole, that exaggerated movement (vs resistance) can start putting a lot of stress on things like ligaments and tendons.
Runners in general these days doing far too much running in soft "springy" shoes - from casual runners through to pros. Yes there are definitely some benefits in terms of impact fatigue due to the new foams, but some shoes are dangerously high off the ground. I don't know if this contributes/has contributed to any of his issues specifically but you might not be wrong.

really appreciate this.

Johnathan take note, to round out your expertise, and cover this hole.

Soft shoes are injury machines.

I can go 12 hours on my feet, with no problem with high end dress shoes, with a firm athletic sole and heel, with special grip.

My soft stylish adidas, for gym work, don't cut it for duration, feet are beat up.

9 months ago 08/20/2025 4:50pm EDT

re: Thalia Street

I ran at UT when Arkansas was in our conference. I would have loved to run for John McDonald although I beat his athletes in the steeple. They did tempo runs before it was fashionable and my ex brother in law ran for him and this is the exact workout they regularly did. The dude is a legend...

9 months ago 08/21/2025 8:17am EDT

re: I love track

I love track wrote:
Thalia Street wrote:
the entire workout was done in flats. Achilles must still be a problem if no spikes.
Disagree.
There is no need to put on spikes for a few fast reps at the end of this.
The fact that it would be pointless and stupid to do after an injury doesn't mean that it is still a "problem."

barefeet still the best.

9 months ago 08/21/2025 10:35am EDT

re: I love track

I love track wrote:
Thalia Street wrote:
the entire workout was done in flats. Achilles must still be a problem if no spikes.
Disagree.
There is no need to put on spikes for a few fast reps at the end of this.
The fact that it would be pointless and stupid to do after an injury doesn't mean that it is still a "problem."

Typically, the majority of the workout would be done in Dragonflys at this point in the season. Though it seems "pointless" to someone outside of elite athletics, many pros actually change shoes multiple times throughout a workout. In fact, his training partner did for that very session.

9 months ago 08/21/2025 10:41am EDT

re: noyesliv

noyesliv wrote:
I ran at UT when Arkansas was in our conference. I would have loved to run for John McDonald although I beat his athletes in the steeple. They did tempo runs before it was fashionable and my ex brother in law ran for him and this is the exact workout they regularly did. The dude is a legend...

Hard 10 miler on Saturdays when there was no meet was actually more difficult than the xc races themselves.

9 months ago 08/21/2025 10:46am EDT

re: DukeofDenmark

gonna start reporting these thread clogging posts. let's see what happens. Hopefully they get deleted, along with this post for "low/no information post"

referring to the individual spamming half of this page. put it all in one post, and move on.

This post was edited 1 minute after it was posted.

9 months ago 08/21/2025 10:52am EDT

re: high school xc coach

high school xc coach wrote:
gonna start reporting these thread clogging posts. let's see what happens. Hopefully they get deleted, along with this post for "low/no information post"
referring to the individual spamming half of this page. put it all in one post, and move on.

Agree. There's a lot of posters I don't like, but I can tolerate them if they keep their opinions/gibberish on a legit thread topic to one post. When they start to post repeatedly in rapid fire, they destroy the thread.

9 months ago 08/21/2025 11:15am EDT

re: cutdown

cutdown wrote:
DukeofDenmark wrote:
The king just posted on Instagram:
"Tuesday track session in Chiavenna ✅
2k, 1600, 1200, 1k, 800, 600, 300, 400, 200 🚂💨 Feeling strong 💪🏼"
I'm anxiously waiting to find out what his plans are for the wc. I REALLY hope he is in great shape and competitive in at least one of the 1500m and 5000m.
I never trained at an elite level, so maybe one of you can help me explain what his workout might be tailored towards? I guess it could be a lot (especially with no times and rest included), but maybe it hints more towards only 5k, or could the shorter reps be a sign that he is prepping for something faster?
Any insights/speculation is appreciated!
Cutdown, likely hitting a range of paces
I'd guess the 2k and 1600 were about 8k-5k pace, 1200-800 at 3k or so, and the 400-200 progressing from mile to 800. Hit a wide range of paces and get accustomed to shifting gears

The micro analysis of his workout and the shoes he used, is over the top. All of the guys he will be competing with are also running a wide range of paces and are subsequently prepared, subject to fitness, to kick at the end of a race. My take of Ingebrigtsen’s video is that it was a solid workout and an indication that he has recovered from his injury.

Some of you are as focused as internet crime sleuths.

9 months ago 08/21/2025 11:24am EDT

re: DukeofDenmark

It doesn't matter how he's feeling, he's finished.

9 months ago 08/21/2025 12:32pm EDT

re: Kickers usually win

Kickers usually win wrote:
cutdown wrote:
Cutdown, likely hitting a range of paces
I'd guess the 2k and 1600 were about 8k-5k pace, 1200-800 at 3k or so, and the 400-200 progressing from mile to 800. Hit a wide range of paces and get accustomed to shifting gears
The micro analysis of his workout and the shoes he used, is over the top. All of the guys he will be competing with are also running a wide range of paces and are subsequently prepared, subject to fitness, to kick at the end of a race. My take of Ingebrigtsen’s video is that it was a solid workout and an indication that he has recovered from his injury.
Some of you are as focused as internet crime sleuths.

I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion, in agreement or not. I enjoy the "sleuth"ing. I don't know what video you saw, but there were only pictures of the workout released from what I have seen. At that, shoes used is a huge indicator of how someone's injury might be recovered/not recovered from. He certainly wasn't doing all his road runs recently in old Vaporfly 4% because they match his vest.

9 months ago 08/21/2025 2:11pm EDT

re: Thalia Street

He was working out with Almgren, correct? The guy who just ran 12:44 in Stockholm to win a DL 5K?

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