I think this is a good thing… keeping cards close and grinding.
Noooo…..Jakob is being attacked by directed energy weapons for real. I’m in over my head now after the other thread I saw earlier from the United Nations website. They are farking with Jakob’s health, don’t ever stop believing that
This certainly doesn't sound like good news to me, but there still is the chance that he doesn't want to take any risks. The fact that he was announced just a couple of days ago and now backs off, tells me it may well be a minor setback.
We don't know how he feels and we shouldn't speculate unless we want to be able to look back at our own posts in a couple of weeks just to say "see, I knew it back then". Time will tell.
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I think this is a good thing… keeping cards close and grinding.
It's becoming increasingly clear that Jakob's running career is over. After having a child, the father suffers a drop in testosterone. An elite athlete should never have a child in the middle of their prime. They compromise their ability to recover and rebuild tendons/muscles permanently. Adding to that the unexpected and inexplicable (💉) rise of athletes like Cole Hocker, Phanuel Koech, Nico Young, and Azzedine Habz adds to him never medalling again in either event. It was a good run Jakob, but it's time to hang up the spikes.
A little truth to that but the NSA had him farked up with directed energy weapons located strategically around the globe. For it would also be true that same weapons can be turned into a benefit by healing Jakob’s tendons very quickly and never injring it again. They just don’t want him to succeed again.
Definitely not a good thing to have these races announced as openers are so close to worlds and then strike them from the schedule. Especially for Jakob, who has cut his teeth on heavy racing schedules, and I think it would’ve benefited from continuity from indoors to now.
Something I’ve been thinking about: a lot of the dialogue surrounding Yakov’s metal chances given his health has been compromised training hurts him in the 1500 but he’s still the heavy 5K favorite.
But I feel like it might be the opposite? If his training has been stop and start, and he lacks fitness, perhaps he’s more vulnerable than the 5K where someone among the Ethiopian or American contingents will be willing to make the race faster.
In the 1500, if it’s not him pushing early, then who? There’s no Yared (for now). With his abbreviated racing and training schedule, maybe the 800 m squeeze in the 1500 is more in his wheelhouse.
Dodging those testers is a nightmare! Keely also disappeared. I've noticed some big names have very long injury breaks. Id love to see who has 2 missed tests and then has an injury break till they expire.
Sorry if it kills your joy. But I would prefer an enhanced games so we won't make athletes like Erriyon look so guilty in the eyes. He deserves better. They are exceptional athletes irrespective of doping.
I will never not love Ben Johnson or Lance Armstrong. They are products of their age. And winning is all that matters.
Definitely not a good thing to have these races announced as openers are so close to worlds and then strike them from the schedule. Especially for Jakob, who has cut his teeth on heavy racing schedules, and I think it would’ve benefited from continuity from indoors to now.
Something I’ve been thinking about: a lot of the dialogue surrounding Yakov’s metal chances given his health has been compromised training hurts him in the 1500 but he’s still the heavy 5K favorite.
But I feel like it might be the opposite? If his training has been stop and start, and he lacks fitness, perhaps he’s more vulnerable than the 5K where someone among the Ethiopian or American contingents will be willing to make the race faster.
In the 1500, if it’s not him pushing early, then who? There’s no Yared (for now). With his abbreviated racing and training schedule, maybe the 800 m squeeze in the 1500 is more in his wheelhouse.
Nobody is going to make the race fast at 5000, we have literally heard this every year for like 15+ years now dating back to the Mo Farah days. At best you get a high 12:5x race which I don't see hurting any of the real contenders
Also, this seems to be really worrying because this really can boil down to two reasons: 1. He doesn't want to race because he still wants time to reach his 100% level by the WC which is understandable or 2. He is still getting pain in his achilles and is really just training through to atleast run the WC.
If it's 2. then he is in big trouble and may only run the 5000m.
As Rodal and others speculate it’s 2 I think. I’m starting to believe he hasn’t been able to run pain-free at 1,500 pace and will opt for 5,000 only in Tokyo.
I don’t understand this logic. If he can’t run at 1500 pace, how is he supposed to be competitive in the 5k? He needs to be able to close in 2:21/1:50/53. Seems more likely he’ll race both or neither.
Also can someone link his recent Brussels announcement? If it doesn’t include any specific language about his situation, it could just be a repost and he may not have reinjured himself. He was originally confirmed for Brussels months ago.
Also can someone link his recent Brussels announcement? If it doesn’t include any specific language about his situation, it could just be a repost and he may not have reinjured himself. He was originally confirmed for Brussels months ago.
There’s a chance he’s just not fit enough and wants to get in as much uninterrupted training as possible, but the last-minute nature of this announcement (why would he confirm for Brussels a few days ago if he wasn’t going to run it?) makes me think his Achilles problem is back.
There’s a chance he’s just not fit enough and wants to get in as much uninterrupted training as possible, but the last-minute nature of this announcement (why would he confirm for Brussels a few days ago if he wasn’t going to run it?) makes me think his Achilles problem is back.
This is what his spokesperson said per the Citius insta post:
“I just want to inform you that Jakob Ingebrigtsen will not participate in the DL events in Silesia and Brussels. He is still working to get rid of the injury he has sustained in his Achilles. Unfortunately. He would very much like to be able to participate.”
I lean towards setback. If it was just a matter of needing more time to prepare, I think they would have said that and not the part about getting rid of the injury.
There’s a chance he’s just not fit enough and wants to get in as much uninterrupted training as possible, but the last-minute nature of this announcement (why would he confirm for Brussels a few days ago if he wasn’t going to run it?) makes me think his Achilles problem is back.
This is what his spokesperson said per the Citius insta post:
“I just want to inform you that Jakob Ingebrigtsen will not participate in the DL events in Silesia and Brussels. He is still working to get rid of the injury he has sustained in his Achilles. Unfortunately. He would very much like to be able to participate.”
I lean towards setback. If it was just a matter of needing more time to prepare, I think they would have said that and not the part about getting rid of the injury.
But Using the injury excuse is a very polite way to blow off these meets, which are heavily promoting him.
The announcements using him as the face of the meet could have pushed him to make the early announcement, so he's not stuck pulling a SML type of move.
might not be a setback. might just be feeling like he can't afford to miss 3-5 day chunks of training with so little time left.
He can always get into the diamond league final in some kind of non DL event if he wants a tuneup before worlds.
I don’t understand this logic. If he can’t run at 1500 pace, how is he supposed to be competitive in the 5k? He needs to be able to close in 2:21/1:50/53. Seems more likely he’ll race both or neither.
Also can someone link his recent Brussels announcement? If it doesn’t include any specific language about his situation, it could just be a repost and he may not have reinjured himself. He was originally confirmed for Brussels months ago.
The theory is he can’t do specific work now for the 1500. If he can’t sprint by September he’s screwed either way. But it’s possible running some at 61-62s pace is OK for him but 55-56s isn’t.
There’s a chance he’s just not fit enough and wants to get in as much uninterrupted training as possible, but the last-minute nature of this announcement (why would he confirm for Brussels a few days ago if he wasn’t going to run it?) makes me think his Achilles problem is back.
This is what his spokesperson said per the Citius insta post:
“I just want to inform you that Jakob Ingebrigtsen will not participate in the DL events in Silesia and Brussels. He is still working to get rid of the injury he has sustained in his Achilles. Unfortunately. He would very much like to be able to participate.”
I lean towards setback. If it was just a matter of needing more time to prepare, I think they would have said that and not the part about getting rid of the injury.
Maybe the effects from starting training as a pro at age 11 have finally come home to roost and rather than time, he needs some type of surgery.
I don’t understand this logic. If he can’t run at 1500 pace, how is he supposed to be competitive in the 5k? He needs to be able to close in 2:21/1:50/53. Seems more likely he’ll race both or neither.
Also can someone link his recent Brussels announcement? If it doesn’t include any specific language about his situation, it could just be a repost and he may not have reinjured himself. He was originally confirmed for Brussels months ago.
The theory is he can’t do specific work now for the 1500. If he can’t sprint by September he’s screwed either way. But it’s possible running some at 61-62s pace is OK for him but 55-56s isn’t.
I’ve never heard that theory before. Maybe running 65s in a 10000m would be even better?
The theory is he can’t do specific work now for the 1500. If he can’t sprint by September he’s screwed either way. But it’s possible running some at 61-62s pace is OK for him but 55-56s isn’t.
I’ve never heard that theory before. Maybe running 65s in a 10000m would be even better?
He should stick to the 5000m and run the 10000m at Worlds. Think he could fit better as a Mo Farah type runner. Doesn't seem like his body is capable of the speed anymore. In any case, his training isn't allowing his achilles to recover. Who knows why?
If this is true, this proves to be very bad for his prospects at winning Worlds in any event. I know how good he is aerobically, but he seems to do well by racing into shape rather than doing race pace sessions alone. I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls out of Worlds at this point because of injury.
