51.76 close in a 13:26 race? Serious question: can Jakob match that? Even if the race is 13:0x, are we sure he can close faster than Hocker? No one was even close to matching him today.
I think Cole will withdraw in favor of Cooper
That would be quite the gift for his friend, but hasn’t Cole been pretty adamant that he wants to double at World’s?
I’m really serious when I think he’s going to be looking for another gold in the 1500, 51 second last lap shows me he has the skill set, he just needs to be ready to make moves places other then the rail
Best chance at gold is to let the Ethiopians, Jakob if he’s there, and Grant if he is feeling like a hero take lead the whole time and steal the race as late as possible. I got a feeling that Mahari kid can kick like a prized racing horse, so Cole will want to not underestimate him and just cover his move and wait to pass with just 50 to go. Cole winning gold will be about timing and patience. None of the others guys in the race can run 3:27 1500 except Jakob and none of them including Jakob can close 12:5 100 in a 3:30 race.
Science fiction! And next WC he can compete in 800m, and at the Olympics 3000 steeplechase. Will be so good!
Hocker is starting to make me want to go to church. He ran the most horrible tactical race humanly possible. His reward? A giant hole opens on the inside rail and he flies through like Billy Mills.
51.76 close in a 13:26 race? Serious question: can Jakob match that? Even if the race is 13:0x, are we sure he can close faster than Hocker? No one was even close to matching him today.
jakob closed in 52 in paris during a 13:13 race while looking completely relaxed.
51.76 close in a 13:26 race? Serious question: can Jakob match that? Even if the race is 13:0x, are we sure he can close faster than Hocker? No one was even close to matching him today.
No, Jakob can’t, if he’s even 100% let alone on the starting line in Tokyo. It’s debatable, but Cole with this one race may be the favorite now.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!!!? JAKOB IS A ONCE IN ETERNITY TALENT AND YOU THINK THIS FRAUD HOCKER COULD EVEN CHALLENGE HIM?!????!! JAKOB COULD BEAT HOCKER WITH ANY STRATEGY: LEADING FROM THE GUN, SIT AND KICK etc. STOP FOOLING YOURSELF, JAKOB COULD LITERALLY LAP HOCKER IN A 5000!!!!
I’m really serious when I think he’s going to be looking for another gold in the 1500, 51 second last lap shows me he has the skill set, he just needs to be ready to make moves places other then the rail
Best chance at gold is to let the Ethiopians, Jakob if he’s there, and Grant if he is feeling like a hero take lead the whole time and steal the race as late as possible. I got a feeling that Mahari kid can kick like a prized racing horse, so Cole will want to not underestimate him and just cover his move and wait to pass with just 50 to go. Cole winning gold will be about timing and patience. None of the others guys in the race can run 3:27 1500 except Jakob and none of them including Jakob can close 12:5 100 in a 3:30 race.
Get real.
Cole will need to focus all his energy on the 1500.
He kicked well of of a 13-mid timed 5,000m. Worlds, at this distance, will be run completely different and Hocker would not be a factor at all.
51.76 for a final lap in a 5000m is FAST. How many times have we seen a sub-52 final lap in a 5000m?
Farah did a 50.89 final lap in Gateshead 2013 (finishing time was 14:10.00)
And Lagat did an otherwordly 51.6 in a 12:59.22 race in London 2006. The race is on Youtube (in bad resolution) and the clock says 51.94 (but Lagat wasn't leading at the bell/4600m, so you have to subtract the margin he's behind the leader at the bell, away from the final lap time displayed on the screen. Bekele wasn't too bad in that race either, he did 13:00.04 with a 52.7 final lap.)
Other close ones includes: Noureddine Morceli in Zurich 1994: 13:03.85, with a 52.0 final lap
Mo Farah in Zurich 2014: 14:05.82, with a 52.22 final lap
Kenenisa Bekele in Stuttgart 2006: 13:48.62, with a 52.28 final lap (Rare finishing time from Bekele, he almost never went slower than 13:20 in the 5000m)
Are there any other 5000m races with sub-52 final laps that I'm missing?
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51.76 for a final lap in a 5000m is FAST. How many times have we seen a sub-52 final lap in a 5000m?
Farah did a 50.89 final lap in Gateshead 2013 (finishing time was 14:10.00)
And Lagat did an otherwordly 51.6 in a 12:59.22 race in London 2006. The race is on Youtube (in bad resolution) and the clock says 51.94 (but Lagat wasn't leading at the bell/4600m, so you have to subtract the margin he's behind the leader at the bell, away from the final lap time displayed on the screen. Bekele wasn't too bad in that race either, he did 13:00.04 with a 52.7 final lap.)
Other close ones includes: Noureddine Morceli in Zurich 1994: 13:03.85, with a 52.0 final lap
Mo Farah in Zurich 2014: 14:05.82, with a 52.22 final lap
Kenenisa Bekele in Stuttgart 2006: 13:48.62, with a 52.28 final lap (Rare finishing time from Bekele, he almost never went slower than 13:20 in the 5000m)
Are there any other 5000m races with sub-52 final laps that I'm missing?
Jakob like 52 mid in Budapest but I think the splits might be off
It seems odd that any of the competitors capable of under 12:50 would let the pace lag. But sure enough we see it time and time again.
Yep, although I suspect seeing Hocker in the mix at the later stages didn't have quite the same "oh s#$" feel to some of the competition as it would in the Olympics or Worlds since placing in the top 3 was at the forefront of their minds, rather than going for gold.
51.76 close in a 13:26 race? Serious question: can Jakob match that? Even if the race is 13:0x, are we sure he can close faster than Hocker? No one was even close to matching him today.
i would say yes because Jakob tends to go from 600 out not 400 out and Cole has a habit of getting gapped with 400-500 to go
51.76 for a final lap in a 5000m is FAST. How many times have we seen a sub-52 final lap in a 5000m?
Farah did a 50.89 final lap in Gateshead 2013 (finishing time was 14:10.00)
And Lagat did an otherwordly 51.6 in a 12:59.22 race in London 2006. The race is on Youtube (in bad resolution) and the clock says 51.94 (but Lagat wasn't leading at the bell/4600m, so you have to subtract the margin he's behind the leader at the bell, away from the final lap time displayed on the screen. Bekele wasn't too bad in that race either, he did 13:00.04 with a 52.7 final lap.)
Other close ones includes: Noureddine Morceli in Zurich 1994: 13:03.85, with a 52.0 final lap
Mo Farah in Zurich 2014: 14:05.82, with a 52.22 final lap
Kenenisa Bekele in Stuttgart 2006: 13:48.62, with a 52.28 final lap (Rare finishing time from Bekele, he almost never went slower than 13:20 in the 5000m)
Are there any other 5000m races with sub-52 final laps that I'm missing?
Jakob like 52 mid in Budapest but I think the splits might be off
Yes, Jakob's 5000m in Budapest was FAST. Final 400m was 52.45, in a 13:11.30 race. (and he was recovering from being sick a couple of days earlier. He had to really dig deep to pass Katir at the final stretch)
His finish splits (Final 1000m, 800m, 600m, 400m, 200m and 100m) were:
The difference is that recent global championship 5ks have had a long, sustained drive for home, usually a sub-4 last mile to run 13:0x. Jakob can split like a 1:50.x and 53 last lap to close these types of races which is why he always wins. Being able to close hard off the back of a 3:58 final mile is his biggest strength and Hocker's biggest weakness. Whenever he's dropped, it's because he misses the break and doesn't have the chance to close the gap. There wasn't a single sub-60 lap in this race until the last one, so it played right into Hocker's strengths. Tokyo is not going to be like that, so I think even if Jakob isn't in peak form come September, the guys who have demonstrated the ability to close hard off a fast final mile will be the favorites. Hocker isn't one of those guys right now. But I'll be happy to be proven wrong.